70 Hour Logbook Recaps Explained With Pictures.

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Harvey C.'s Comment
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Our son switched from CR England to Marten two months ago and gets much better miles and better pay but has trouble with hours after 8 days. He's on a new dedicated route and is supposed to work 12 days and off 2 days but constantly runs out of hours. He once was off duty for 32 hours but was required to drive to make an appointment time. Is it a good idea for a driver to make suggestions that dispatch change his scheduling to include 34 hour resets? He drives near home frequently so don't know if they should just give him home time weekly or figure out a 34 reset in another state.

On Saturday he got to an appointment less than an hour after a 10 hour sleeper berth. His next appointment was at the same location 12 hours later. The facility does not allow trucks to stay there but there is a truck stop a half mile away.

Dedicated Route:

A driver or carrier who transports cargo between regular, prescribed routes. Normally it means a driver will be dedicated to working for one particular customer like Walmart or Home Depot and they will only haul freight for that customer. You'll often hear drivers say something like, "I'm on the Walmart dedicated account."

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

Rob T.'s Comment
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Harvey i known you mean well but your son really needs to be the one in here asking these questions. We're able to get more information that may change the advice being given. This is another example of why others have stated that you need to "let go". There are too many unknown variables that could affect how other drivers would handle the situation with his hours.

Harvey C.'s Comment
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Harvey i known you mean well but your son really needs to be the one in here asking these questions. We're able to get more information that may change the advice being given. This is another example of why others have stated that you need to "let go". There are too many unknown variables that could affect how other drivers would handle the situation with his hours.

Rob, I understand your position. As I explained before, our son has no plans to join the forum, he doesn't belong to any forums.

As far as "letting go", that is something that seems based on some assumptions that don't exist, though our family culture is different than that of many others. I am a farmer as was my father and grandfather. My father helped his father on his farm, his father helped my father while he was starting out while my father continued to help him, especially when he became ill. I helped my father farming and my father helped me out when I started and I continued to help him. Without family help, it is often impossible to get things done during peak seasons. Our son doesn't help out much now that he is on the road most of the time but he still does when he can. I think this makes for a very strong family unit. I know many of you were not raised up in this sort of environment and I honestly think that is a part of the problem in society today. Most folks live in cities and don't even know many of their neighbors. In the country, we often help one another.

I think I provided adequate details for the situation for some helpful input.

Big Scott's Comment
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Harvey, I just texted him. He says he's good.

Harvey C.'s Comment
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Harvey, I just texted him. He says he's good.

Cool, thanks, Scott!

This problem gets a bit worse when they send him on a trip late on his first day out after home time and then a short run so he doesn't recover much on day 9 and 10. In one instance his manager was frustrated after 7 days when he didn't have much time left.

Sandman J's Comment
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Question regarding recap hours. May be a stupid question, if so forgive my ignorance. I still have 3hrs 21mins on my 70, and at midnight I’ll regain 3hrs 59mins. Can I start driving before midnight, and still recoup the hours?

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Yes. The hours you gain will automatically come back at midnight in the timezone of your terminal. If you went on duty at 8:39 PM you would be able to run for 7 hours and 20 minutes before hitting your 70 again In this situation.

Running on recaps tomorrow for the first time and had a question, and found this from two and a half years ago, which is exactly the info I needed! My terminal is in Central Time and I'm currently in Eastern Time, so now I know I won't get my recap hours back til 0100hrs at my current location. Thanks Rob T.!

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Ryan B.'s Comment
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Something that is important to understand when first starting out is two important rules regarding the 70 hours in 8 days:

I am going to point these two aspects out because some newer drivers may assume that a 70-hour clock applies universally. It doesn't. Also, some drivers may assume that hours are always gained at 00:00 for recaps. Not necessarily.

1. The 70-hour clock requires that a company dispatching its drivers 7 days a week. This means that if the company expects drivers to take a day or two off for weekends, as example, then the 70-hour clock doesn't apply. Instead, a driver is limited to 60 hours in 7 days.

2. Getting hours back at 00:00 according to the home office time zone is not uniform across the board. What I mean by this is that it is up to each company to determine when the next day begins (conversely the current day ends). It's common practice to set this time as being 00:00, but a company can choose to set this time as when its operations staff comes in for the day, or any other time, for that matter. The company's software used for drive time, on-duty time, etc will reflect the time when the company has chosen to change from one day to the next. Hours gained from recaps will be added after the time designated by the company. To clarify, whatever time is chosen by a company to begin a day is applicable to every driver in its fleet.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

BK's Comment
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Something that is important to understand when first starting out is two important rules regarding the 70 hours in 8 days:

I am going to point these two aspects out because some newer drivers may assume that a 70-hour clock applies universally. It doesn't. Also, some drivers may assume that hours are always gained at 00:00 for recaps. Not necessarily.

1. The 70-hour clock requires that a company dispatching its drivers 7 days a week. This means that if the company expects drivers to take a day or two off for weekends, as example, then the 70-hour clock doesn't apply. Instead, a driver is limited to 60 hours in 7 days.

2. Getting hours back at 00:00 according to the home office time zone is not uniform across the board. What I mean by this is that it is up to each company to determine when the next day begins (conversely the current day ends). It's common practice to set this time as being 00:00, but a company can choose to set this time as when its operations staff comes in for the day, or any other time, for that matter. The company's software used for drive time, on-duty time, etc will reflect the time when the company has chosen to change from one day to the next. Hours gained from recaps will be added after the time designated by the company. To clarify, whatever time is chosen by a company to begin a day is applicable to every driver in its fleet.

Well, that clears everything up.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

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