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Ernie S. (AKA Old Salty D's Comment
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Glad everything is finally going your way. Safe travels.

Ernie

Kim T.'s Comment
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Ernie, thank you for all of your advice and suggestions. I appreciate you so much!

Ernie S. (AKA Old Salty D's Comment
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Ernie, thank you for all of your advice and suggestions. I appreciate you so much!

You are quite welcome. Just glad I could help. As I told you yesterday, I don't train for several reasons, so by helping folks like you is just as important as training.

Ernie

G-Town's Comment
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Glad you got through that Kim.

Stuck tandems?

Had it happen once during my first few weeks on the Walmart account over 5 years ago. After about 30 minutes of hammering on it, I called the Walmart shop at the DC I am assigned to. He instructed me to use the trailer service brake (AKA the Johnson Bar) to hold the trailer, rocking the trailer forward and then reverse until hearing the unmistakable “pop” indicating freeing of the pins. It worked immediately.

He explained that the service brake holds with maximum force as opposed to the trailer spring brakes (red knob), which have limited holding force.

I typically move the tandems several times throughout my day for a variety of reasons. I can honestly state since applying the Johnson Bar technique to hold the trailer I’ve never had to deal with stuck pins.

Good luck and safe travels!

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Ernie S. (AKA Old Salty D's Comment
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Glad you got through that Kim.

Stuck tandems?

Had it happen once during my first few weeks on the Walmart account over 5 years ago. After about 30 minutes of hammering on it, I called the Walmart shop at the DC I am assigned to. He instructed me to use the trailer service brake (AKA the Johnson Bar) to hold the trailer, rocking the trailer forward and then reverse until hearing the unmistakable “pop” indicating freeing of the pins. It worked immediately.

He explained that the service brake holds with maximum force as opposed to the trailer spring brakes (red knob), which have limited holding force.

I typically move the tandems several times throughout my day for a variety of reasons. I can honestly state since applying the Johnson Bar technique to hold the trailer I’ve never had to deal with stuck pins.

Good luck and safe travels!

The only problem with your suggestion is that we don't have that feature here at Prime. Although I have been successful with just having set the service brakes and rocking the trailer to release the locking pins.

Ernie

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

G-Town's Comment
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Glad you got through that Kim.

Stuck tandems?

Had it happen once during my first few weeks on the Walmart account over 5 years ago. After about 30 minutes of hammering on it, I called the Walmart shop at the DC I am assigned to. He instructed me to use the trailer service brake (AKA the Johnson Bar) to hold the trailer, rocking the trailer forward and then reverse until hearing the unmistakable “pop” indicating freeing of the pins. It worked immediately.

He explained that the service brake holds with maximum force as opposed to the trailer spring brakes (red knob), which have limited holding force.

I typically move the tandems several times throughout my day for a variety of reasons. I can honestly state since applying the Johnson Bar technique to hold the trailer I’ve never had to deal with stuck pins.

Good luck and safe travels!

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The only problem with your suggestion is that we don't have that feature here at Prime. Although I have been successful with just having set the service brakes and rocking the trailer to release the locking pins.

Ernie

Somehow I should have known that...thanks Ernie. Don’t want to confound anyone.

I do agree with the rocking though.

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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Glad you got through that Kim.

Stuck tandems?

Had it happen once during my first few weeks on the Walmart account over 5 years ago. After about 30 minutes of hammering on it, I called the Walmart shop at the DC I am assigned to. He instructed me to use the trailer service brake (AKA the Johnson Bar) to hold the trailer, rocking the trailer forward and then reverse until hearing the unmistakable “pop” indicating freeing of the pins. It worked immediately.

He explained that the service brake holds with maximum force as opposed to the trailer spring brakes (red knob), which have limited holding force.

I typically move the tandems several times throughout my day for a variety of reasons. I can honestly state since applying the Johnson Bar technique to hold the trailer I’ve never had to deal with stuck pins.

Good luck and safe travels!

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The only problem with your suggestion is that we don't have that feature here at Prime. Although I have been successful with just having set the service brakes and rocking the trailer to release the locking pins.

Ernie

No Johnson bar?

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Old School's Comment
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Prime orders their trucks that way.

Ernie S. (AKA Old Salty D's Comment
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And the reasoning is that in the past drivers (especially lease guys) would use the Johnson bar instead of the service brakes to save on maintenance costs. So you can't blame Prime for their decision to eliminate them from the trucks.

Ernie

Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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And the reasoning is that in the past drivers (especially lease guys) would use the Johnson bar instead of the service brakes to save on maintenance costs. So you can't blame Prime for their decision to eliminate them from the trucks.

Ernie

Wow. I don't know what to say to that. And no, can't blame them.

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