Five Month Professional Driver Program??

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Eggman's Comment
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I want to add a correction to a comment I made:

I have not read Brett's book yet. This is something I am just now starting.

:D

-Eggman

Rainy D.'s Comment
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It also gives me time to resolve some issues with my MVR as well.

-Eggman

This is a major disadvantage to traditional schools. Schools dont care about your criminal, medical, or MVR...they want that money. Too many people pay schools and after wasting time and money find they cant get a job. With company sponsored problems are flagged before all that so you know what the issues are and how to fix them before that certificate becomes stale.

MVR:

Motor Vehicle Record

An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

Eggman's Comment
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Yes. This is true. Fortunately- my MVR is good. I’m just waiting for a call back from the department of licensing.

I would like to note tho- the school I’m attending made me do a drug test and print out my MVR as well as get a DOT medical card prior to enrollment. I had to explain and prove that these items on my MVR wasn’t mine. I was fortunate they required me to print one out- because I would had never known about the misinformation being reflected.

-Eggman

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

MVR:

Motor Vehicle Record

An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

Eggman's Comment
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Thanks and thank you for your service to our country. I mean it. Veteran's Day isn't just about days off and discounts. :-)

Thank you for the kind words.

G-Town's Comment
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Eggman I read through the outline you posted. Appreciate you doing that. One thing that really sticks out to me; the relatively low percentage of drive time vs classroom time. I honestly expected it to much higher.

For perspective I logged about 20 hours of road driving during my 3 weeks training at Swift’s Richmond Academy. The last 4 days of week 3 was spent driving 1on 1 with an instructor about 3-4 hours per day, the remainder of the day was all backing. I think you understand what I am trying to point out here.

The curriculum seems rather top heavy with classroom time. Like I said before you seem like a smart guy and will probably quickly grasp most concepts. It will be interesting to see exactly what the content of the classroom instruction is, as you progress through this.

Sorry for not extending my appreciation for your service before now, thank you!

By the way you might benefit from this: High Road CDL Training Program

And this too since it seems as if you are entrenched in PTI practice:

Good luck with this.

Pre-trip Inspection:

A pre-trip inspection is a thorough inspection of the truck completed before driving for the first time each day.

Federal and state laws require that drivers inspect their vehicles. Federal and state inspectors also may inspect your vehicles. If they judge a vehicle to be unsafe, they will put it “out of service” until it is repaired.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Big Red (Mike)'s Comment
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...reading the information on the Trucking Truth website with a “healthy dose of skepticism” is neither necessary or prudent. Here is a healthy dose of reality Mike; how on earth can you evaluate the relevance and fact-check what is written here without any first-hand experience? You can’t. What is your base of knowledge needed to evaluate the truth and accuracy of our work and contributions? It’s a rhetorical question...

You claim to thirst for knowledge about this business, etc. That's great, but highly unlikely to be part of any truck driving school’s curriculum.

The absolute best place to find and ingest all of the information you mentioned, is here, on the Trucking Truth website. Invest several hours here before rendering further judgement..,

G-town, I apologize if I offended any of the moderators on this site. I've lurked on this site for many, many hours, read all the articles you linked, started the high-road training course and LOVED EVERY BIT OF IT! This is by far the best industry-prep site I have ever seen. (BTW, that last sentence is the first judgement I have rendered in any of my posts.)

I certainly don't discount the information and advice provided herein from whatever or whoever the source may be. But I also won't blindly follow any of it either. As Brett said in his earlier reply to Eggman, this is a very individual experience so I think it behooves every new, old and aspiring trucker to keep an open mind to all experiences and advice offered. I'm, as you noted, in no position to fact-check anything you say but I am not looking for facts. I look to you and your peers for advice, experiences, tips and other things you've learned throughout the years. I can find the facts in numerous other places, I can't seem to find as much quality advice as I find on TT anywhere else.

Thanks for the time you all put into this site. It is much appreciated.

P.S. If I didn't think critically and challenge different information sources, I'd be a sucker for the terminal rats, lol.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Eggman's Comment
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Thanks G-Town, and to be frank- I honestly didn’t notice that either until after I had enrolled. (Silly me)

I certainly hope the “remedial training” will have more behind the wheel action. There are only four of us in this class at this time- and am hoping due to the small number, I can get some actual hands on time. I have no idea how to drive a stick and they claimed to teach me.

I will go through this articles- thanks for the links, I am glad to have a place such as this for resources. I will be sure to keep a good update on this progress. It’ll be interesting to see how this goes myself.

-Eggman

G-Town's Comment
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...reading the information on the Trucking Truth website with a “healthy dose of skepticism” is neither necessary or prudent. Here is a healthy dose of reality Mike; how on earth can you evaluate the relevance and fact-check what is written here without any first-hand experience? You can’t. What is your base of knowledge needed to evaluate the truth and accuracy of our work and contributions? It’s a rhetorical question...

You claim to thirst for knowledge about this business, etc. Thats great, but highly unlikely to be part of any truck driving school’s curriculum.

The absolute best place to find and ingest all of the information you mentioned, is here, on the Trucking Truth website. Invest several hours here before rendering further judgement..,

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G-town, I apologize if I offended any of the moderators on this site. I've lurked on this site for many, many hours, read all the articles you linked, started the high-road training course and LOVED EVERY BIT OF IT! This is by far the best industry-prep site I have ever seen. (BTW, that last sentence is the first judgement I have rendered in any of my posts.)

I certainly don't discount the information and advice provided herein from whatever or whoever the source may be. But I also won't blindly follow any of it either. As Brett said in his earlier reply to Eggman, this is a very individual experience so I think it behooves every new, old and aspiring trucker to keep an open mind to all experiences and advice offered. I'm, as you noted, in no position to fact-check anything you say but I am not looking for facts. I look to you and your peers for advice, experiences, tips and other things you've learned throughout the years. I can find the facts in numerous other places, I can't seem to find as much quality advice as I find on TT anywhere else.

Thanks for the time you all put into this site. It is much appreciated.

P.S. If I didn't think critically and challenge different information sources, I'd be a sucker for the terminal rats, lol.

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Thanks Mike, I understand where you were coming from now and honestly I wasn’t offended by your comments.

All good. Peace.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Bruce K.'s Comment
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There you go. Your right- what do I know. :) Just wanted to share my experience- but it sounds like it’s not wanted here.

Hey Eggman,

I'm new to the forum and I want to say I appreciate your comments. I'm just starting a three week CDL program but I understand that your decision was based on your individual circumstances and that was the right decision for you. Don't get discouraged by anyone and keep posting because I want to read your ongoing posts. Good luck with school. Remember, Never give up and Never give in and you may just be alright.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
G-Town's Comment
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There you go. Your right- what do I know. :) Just wanted to share my experience- but it sounds like it’s not wanted here.

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Hey Eggman,

I'm new to the forum and I want to say I appreciate your comments. I'm just starting a three week CDL program but I understand that your decision was based on your individual circumstances and that was the right decision for you. Don't get discouraged by anyone and keep posting because I want to read your ongoing posts. Good luck with school. Remember, Never give up and Never give in and you may just be alright.

Bruce did you read the entire thread to gain context and a full understanding of; “why” this became a lively discussion with 3 mods involved?

In the end I believe we arrived at a positive spot, an exchange of ideas and observations; with Eggman knowing that although it’s not the recommended approach, we totally support him in his journey.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

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