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Rainy D.'s Comment
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Im curious. You have been unemployed for 5 months and "released" from the prior job. Does that mean you were fired from a job then got one and quit 5 months ago..or were you laid off or what?

Dennis B.'s Comment
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May be because you were unemployed. When I talked to Prime recruiter they told me they won't hire people who are unemployed for sometime.

So much for the driver shortage..lol I never understood companies like prime that are so strict on their hiring process. If you can prove what you were doing while unemployed there are companies that will hire you..

PackRat's Comment
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Welcome to the forum Dennis B. Very interested in where you arrived at that conclusion in your very first post?

G-Town's Comment
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Dennis’ first post...

So much for the driver shortage..lol I never understood companies like prime that are so strict on their hiring process when some of their drivers are just as bad as some of the folks driving for CR England.

Dennis, there is a shortage of qualified drivers. Operative word is “qualified”. I agree Prime’s hiring process is stricter than most, agreed.

They like most every company qualify potential drivers on risk. A sketchy work history presents a significant hiring risk because unlike the majority of jobs and career paths, trucking has an exceptionally high failure rate. On average 70% of rookie drivers never make it past 3 months. It’s a very difficult job and life style even for the best qualified, entry level candidates.

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Your comment about their drivers are “just as bad as CR England’s?” What exactly do you base that inflammatory comment on? Both companies are highly successful and both companies employ thousands of safe and efficient drivers. Many of them active in this forum.

Not sure what first-hand experience you’ve had that qualifies you as an expert on evaluating the quality of any company’s drivers. Please share what you know...and what credentials you have supporting your opinion? All ears.

And for future reference? We don’t tolerate any member, bashing any company. Especially true for a person with zero experience.

Share your personal experience; not what you heard or read on the internet.

Rainy D.'s Comment
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Dennis B wrote:

So much for the driver shortage..lol

There is a shortage of qualified drivers, not new applicants. Prime is bringing in 300+ potential students per week between the three facilities and most wont pass a drug or background check.

They are selective That is their right. They want to make sure the people they choose wont just quit without notice. Some applicants are homeless and bounce from orientation to orientation for the free hotel and food. People who cant make a commitment are unreliable and can jeopardize the companys relationship with their customers.

As for CRE, although they pay low, they give second chances to people who made poor judgement calls and made past mistakes. Some people are appreciative of such a company.

Your profle says preparing for school. How would you feel if something in your past held you back? You might be grateful a company was willing to take a shot with you when others wouldnt.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Your comment about their drivers are “just as bad as CR England’s?” What exactly do you base that inflammatory comment on? Both companies are highly successful and both companies employ thousands of safe and efficient drivers. Many of them active in this forum.

I had actually just edited that part out of his statement. We don't need that kind of garbage.

I have been unemployed for 5 months and was released from previous job.

Those are both reasons you weren't hired by Prime or Jim Palmer. Generally speaking neither company will hire someone who was fired from their previous job or has been recently unemployed for at least 3 months. These aren't etched in stone, but they're written on stone in permanent marker. They rarely make exceptions to those rules.

the recruiter said " we will not be giving you a reason why"

Most companies won't give a reason why because even if they accidentally word it the wrong way and it can be misconstrued to show they used illegal hiring practices they can be sued for that. So normally they won't give a reason or they'll just say they've found more qualified candidates.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Brett Aquila's Comment
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There is a shortage of qualified drivers, not new applicants.

This is a critical misunderstanding that most new applicants coming into the industry have. They're under the impression that the industry is begging for new drivers. But in fact they do have a huge amount of new applicants that show interest in trucking. The problem is that most of them don't work out. They either don't have the work ethic, can't pass the physical, can't handle the pressures of the job, or don't like being away from home for extended periods of time.

So a ton of students flood in and about 90% of them out of trucking within a few months. So these companies will try to find the better qualified candidates, but that's almost a complete guessing game because you simply won't know who will stick around and who won't until you put them out there and let them live the experience for a while.

What the industry has a shortage of is experienced, productive, safe, hard working drivers. Those are extremely hard to come by.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
millionmiler24 (CRST Amba's Comment
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Your comment about their drivers are “just as bad as CR England’s?” What exactly do you base that inflammatory comment on? Both companies are highly successful and both companies employ thousands of safe and efficient drivers. Many of them active in this forum.

Not sure what first-hand experience you’ve had that qualifies you as an expert on evaluating the quality of any company’s drivers. Please share what you know...and what credentials you have supporting your opinion? All ears.

And for future reference? We don’t tolerate any member, bashing any company. Especially true for a person with zero experience.

Share your personal experience; not what you heard or read on the internet.

G-Town ya took the words out of my mouth here with this one. Dennis, CR England or Prime or ANY truckin company out there doesn’t make the bad drivers, it’s those particular drivers that chose to be that way or those particular drivers that as Brett would put it, couldn’t hack it as truck drivers. As G-Town stated CR England and Prime are VERY successful companies with lots of great drivers employed with them. They wouldn’t be the success they are today or have such wonderful Paid CDL Training Programs if that wasn’t the case. Also referring to your shortage of drivers comment: there isn’t a shortage of drivers in this industry. There is a shortage of Top Tier Drivers You might want to click that link and read Old School’s article because with all due respect, Dennis, you have this industry totally backwards and if you read the links me and G-Town have posted plus the links in this reply then you will have a greater understandin of how this industry works.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Dennis B.'s Comment
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There're bad drivers in every company that is a fact..The only driver shortage is the shortage of pay ,but it seems that some companies are starting to pay a bit better..It is my opinion that the companies that have the strictest application process are usually some of the worst places to work..I started driving back in 2003 i have been around..

Brett Aquila's Comment
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It is my opinion that the companies that have the strictest application process are usually some of the worst places to work

Oh that's a beauty. I would love to hear you expound on that a little bit. Go ahead and explain your theory on how that works. Because what I'm hearing is, "I was turned down by some big carriers and that embarrassed me, so I'm going to take a shot at them publicly to get back at them and pretend I didn't really want to work there anyways."

So yeah, let's hear a little more about how that works.

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