Mistakenly Took One Of My Wife Adderall Thinking It Was One Of My Aspirants. Failed Drug Test.

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Bruce C.'s Comment
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Now I would like to know if someone could give me a answer that makes . Yes it was a mistake that I took it I am not a dope head.Ok my point is this happened so I done some research.Now dot rules are if this happens to you.You must go through the sap program to be able to return to join your safety-sensitive job. Which I understand but after you complete program it sill stay's on your Dac and Dmv for I think 4 to 7 years.My point is you go through all of this too make it right by law.Now can somebody tell me why they ain't a law that says once a driver has completed the sap program and release back to safety-sensitive Duty.That the failed drug test cannot be used against him or her when applying for other trucking jobs.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

PackRat's Comment
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Two reasons that come to mind for me: public safety and honesty. Personally, after seeing stories similar to your own on here at least once a month, I have an extremely difficult time believing any of them. Good luck.

Britton's Comment
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No offense but when I take a Tylenol or zantac I look at it before I put it in my mouth. I've never just tossed a pill in my mouth without looking to see what it is, I mean, I have to before anyway so I can see where it is in my hand.

Tractor Man's Comment
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No offense but when I take a Tylenol or zantac I look at it before I put it in my mouth. I've never just tossed a pill in my mouth without looking to see what it is, I mean, I have to before anyway so I can see where it is in my hand.

Exactly. Aspirants come in an Aspirant bottle, and Adderall comes in an Adderall bottle. How long after you mistakenly took ONE Adderall did you get tested? Was it a random or was there suspicion on the part of your employer. I find it hard to believe that one dose would show up positive.

Rainy D.'s Comment
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For the same reason that a convicted felony cannot say "I served my time so i never have to mention it again".

Many companies have lifetime limits on DUIs and policies on how they handle failed drug tests. In addition, this is an insurance issue. A failed drug test makes you a high risk, so companies will protect themselves.

DUI:

Driving Under the Influence

Bruce C.'s Comment
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No offense but when I take a Tylenol or zantac I look at it before I put it in my mouth. I've never just tossed a pill in my mouth without looking to see what it is, I mean, I have to before anyway so I can see where it is in my hand.

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Exactly. Aspirants come in an Aspirant bottle, and Adderall comes in an Adderall bottle. How long after you mistakenly took ONE Adderall did you get tested? Was it a random or was there suspicion on the part of your employer. I find it hard to believe that one dose would show up positive.

It was same day and

Rainy D.'s Comment
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Wait... so on the same day you took one pill ever..you got pulled for a random? Or was this orientation or what?

Are you just going for a CDL or have you had it already?

cant you just go through the program and back to the same company?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Bruce C.'s Comment
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Wait... so on the same day you took one pill ever..you got pulled for a random? Or was this orientation or what?

Are you just going for a CDL or have you had it already?

cant you just go through the program and back to the same company?

No I had been with company 4years random all the time . Why would I just get up and say to myself, "I am going to take this and ruin my career."

So people don't need to be so judgemental. Because y'all are no better than the next person. If y'all think you are y'all need to step back and take a look at yourself cause UR not.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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I just looked through pages of images of adderal. Not one looked like any aspirin I ever took. Not to mention that like Tractor Man says, one is a controlled drug bottle, and the other is an over the counter bottle. Pretty hard mistake to make.

I’m not buying it either.

But regardless, none of that matters. What matters is whether a company will hire you. Some may, many won’t, for insurance purposes as Rainy said

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Because y'all are no better than the next person. If y'all think you are y'all need to step back and take a look at yourself cause UR not.

That's not true at all. Even the Constitution states:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.”

It certainly doesn't say we all live equally, perform equally, and end up equally. Some people are definitely better than others in many, many ways.

somebody tell me why they ain't a law that says once a driver has completed the sap program and release back to safety-sensitive duty that the failed drug test cannot be used against him or her when applying for other trucking jobs.

Do you really believe that, or are you just angry so you're venting? Because seriously, if that needs to be explained to you......I mean, come on.

You took an Adderall and then went into work at a safety-sensitive job. It doesn't matter if it was a mistake or not when you're evaluating someone for trustworthiness and the ability to handle huge responsibilities. Mistakes like that can not happen in this line of work. You can't be impaired by anything, accidental or not, and then get behind the wheel of an 80,000 pound killing machine on public highways surrounded by innocent families.

That's no different than accidentally falling asleep at the wheel or accidentally taking your eyes off the road. These things can not happen in this line of work. It's not ok to say, "Well, it was an accident." That doesn't make it ok, and it can't fix the broken lives of the people that may have been caught up in your mistake.

The companies who are financially and legally responsible for the people they put behind the wheel and the innocent public you share the highways with have the right to know your past, including the accidents you've had and the decisions you've made.

Everyone makes mistakes. In that regard we're all the same. No one is perfect. But all mistakes are not equal. Banging your funny bone on the door as you're climbing into the truck is not the same as taking an illegal drug before getting behind the wheel. Spilling some of your drink on your shirt is not the same as falling asleep at the wheel of an 80,000 pound rig. So the mistakes and the decisions a person makes over time have to be used in order to evaluate whether or not someone is responsible enough to handle this job.

I don't wish your situation on anyone, but that was no small mistake. That was a mistake that simply can not happen in this line of work.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

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