Getting A Cdl After A Failed Drug Test

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Baldeagle379's Comment
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A friend of mine recently failed a random DISA drug test. His job wasn't DOT related and he doesn't have his cdl. He wasn't fired but is required to do a SAP program. He has to pay out of pocket for the program and doesn't have the money to do so. Is he able to obtain his cdl and go back into trucking since it wasn't DOT related?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Big Scott (CFI Driver/Tra's Comment
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No. He will need the SAP at the minimum.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

Baldeagle379's Comment
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Thanks for the response. Any idea of how long after the program is completed he will have to wait before he is eligible and what the chances are of him finding a company that will hire him?

Jrod's Comment
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Thanks for the response. Any idea of how long after the program is completed he will have to wait before he is eligible and what the chances are of him finding a company that will hire him?

There are "2nd Chance" companies, but I think they are typically for drivers who already have CDL's and experience. Either way, if he does get a company to take a chance on him, he can expect to make less$ and perhaps not get the best treatment. Failing a drug test is expensive in the trucking world.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Rainy D.'s Comment
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As Jrod said, a company like PAM or CR England may take him, but the length of the SAP and the requirements are company specific. One member here said he was hired with 6 mos of SAP another said it took a year of SAP.

It could also depend on criminal and DMV records.

You can hit drug test or failed drug test in the search bar to get a ton of info

Failed Drug Test Return To Duty

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Baldeagle379's Comment
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As Jrod said, a company like PAM or CR England may take him, but the length of the SAP and the requirements are company specific. One member here said he was hired with 6 mos of SAP another said it took a year of SAP.

It could also depend on criminal and DMV records.

You can hit drug test or failed drug test in the search bar to get a ton of info

Failed Drug Test Return To Duty

I have searched the site for information about failed drug test but I haven't found anything related a person that isn't a driver or in any way regulated by DOT when the drug test was failed. I know failing a drug test is a huge issue in the trucking industry but I know that there are several drivers out there that have failed a drug test at a previous job before they decided to become a driver. Basically what I'm understanding is that if you have a regular job and fail a drug test, you can apply at another job, and as long as you pass the pre employment drug screen for the new job you are good to go....as long as the new job isn't a cdl job. Am I correct?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Old School's Comment
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Here's the deal... there is a federal form that has to be filled out for a CDL job which is going to ask this question, "Have you ever failed a drug test?" Is your friend willing to perjure himself on that form? If he does, and gets caught, finding a trucking job will be the least of his worries.

If he isn't looking for a trucking job, I'm not sure why you're asking us.

Basically what I'm understanding is that if you have a regular job and fail a drug test, you can apply at another job, and as long as you pass the pre employment drug screen for the new job you are good to go....as long as the new job isn't a cdl job. Am I correct?

As a former employer, I will tell you that a savvy employer can usually find out if you failed a drug test. Employers will talk to each other even if they are technically not supposed to. Most of the time I would say you are correct in your assumptions. If he can pass a current drug test he's probably safe for a non CDL job.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Baldeagle379's Comment
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I was asking because he was thinking about going to get his cdl and try for a trucking job. I told him I would find out what I could for him before he wasted his time and money on getting his cdl. Just trying to save him from the aggravation of doing all of that and then finding out it was all for nothing if no one will hire him.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Baldeagle379's Comment
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I didn't think getting his cdl would be a viable option but wanted to get other opinions other than my own.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
G-Town's Comment
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Why isn’t he posting on his own behalf? Realize we get inquiries like this frequently, and it makes the exchange of information far more effective when engaging with the source, in this case your friend.

I reread your initial post...noticed the sentence that implied “re-entering the industry”. What is the straight story here...?

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