Failed Drug Test, Never Done Drugs.

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Roy B.'s Comment
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If any of you knew me personally, you would know that just the idea of me doing drugs is ridiculous. But I realize that nobody does know me personally, so it comes off like I'm trying to get away with something. As far as the comment about being man enough to admit something, I don't even know what to say to that, I was always taught to tell the truth, and I own up to all my mistakes. I did some Google research, cuz we all know Google has all the answers LOL, but I did come across something from a testing company from almost 2 years ago that said something about diabetes giving a false positive for cocaine because of damage liver enzymes or something.

The fact that it runs in my family oh, and that my last med card test showed my sugar was above the norm, and they ended up doing a blood poke and it was only one point higher. But that was five months ago, and since then my eyesight has gotten a little worse, to the point that I almost didn't pass my DOT physical for the pre exam, and when I stepped on the scale for the DOT physical I was shocked that I was 25 lb lighter than the last one five months ago. So I'm really hoping as sad as this is, that I went from borderline diabetic to actual diabetic, and because I didn't check that I had problems with my sugar they didn't look for that as a reason. I guess I'll know soon enough, as I said in a different post I'll be going down to get tested for diabetes.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Ken M. (TailGunner)'s Comment
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Https://addictionresource.com/drug-testing/false-positive-drug-test/

Roy B.'s Comment
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Went back to get the details. This is from the" rapid detect Inc" blog.

"The truth is that if you have Kidney Infection, Kidney Disease, Liver Disease, or Diabetes, you could get a false positive for THC (Marijuana), Amphetamines, Opiates, Ecstasy, & Cocaine on your drug test. That’s not because of medication; the false positive comes from the body chemistry stemming from these diseases and you may not even know you have it. This is one of the reasons why it’s always a good idea to get a Lab Confirmation or an MRO to look at the sample and results"

Ken M. (TailGunner)'s Comment
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From LiveScience.com: Poppy seeds naturally contain the compounds morphine and codeine, and so consumption of some products with poppy seeds can trigger false positives results for these drugs. In a 1987 study, five members of a lab baked cookies containing about 1 teaspoon (5 milliliters) of a poppy-seed filling that they bought from the grocery store. Two hours after eating several cookies, all of the lab members tested positive for opiates. The concentration of the drug was greater than 300 ng/mL, which was the minimum cutoff used by the test.

In 1998, the Department of Health and Human Services changed the cutoff to 2,000 ng/mL in order to avoid false-positive results from eating poppy seeds, according to a 2008 review study. However, most laboratories continue to use lower cutoffs, the researchers of that study said.

Army 's Comment
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Not trying to be a Debby Downer here, but you can find anything on the internet to argue a particular side. While it is not my position to argue one way or the other concerning your particular situation, it will be hard to argue it as a false positive. So I am assuming you have one of the following Medically Documented and under a current treatment plan, Kidney Infection, Kidney Disease, Liver Disease, or Diabetes?

I wish you the best, but not sure the argument is winnable.

Chris

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Roy B.'s Comment
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It does run in the family, I'm going down to get tested. After talking to my mom some of the things that I've been noticing over the last four or five months lean-to possible diabetic neuropathy. She said my dad had the same problems. I will be going down to get tested ASAP then I will have medical documentation. Nothing I can really do about it today though.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

Tractor Man's Comment
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or preview it 1st lol)

^^Yes^^ ..........Rainy has yet to find the preview button. I have been tempted several times to hire a Navajo Code Talker to decrypt some of her posts!

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Big Scott (CFI Driver/Tra's Comment
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Sorry GTownd had to jump all over you. There are conditions and circumstances that can cause a false positive on a drug test. You are doing the right thing by making sure you are medically fit to operate a CMV. Good luck and hope all works out.

CMV:

Commercial Motor Vehicle

A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

  • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
  • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
  • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
  • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
  • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards
Roy B.'s Comment
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Okay, so it's been a few days. I found out something very interesting, that all drivers should know. The byproduct from cocaine, the one that shows up in the test. Starts with a B ends in g o n i n e, can't even start to pronounce it. Anyway, that byproduct can be transferred from somebody who uses cocaine through saliva. Granted this is not going to transfer enough to show up in a urine test, but it will show up in a hair test. So I guess be careful who you're kissing. For me, according to my wife she's been clean now for 5 months, I'm not completely convinced, but because the hair that they took for the test was from my arm and not my head, it can go back for almost a year. And that is why somebody who never has done drugs ended up with a failed drug test. Divorce proceedings are underway, but after comments of just man up and admit it, and everybody doubting what I said. I felt it necessary to explain. By the way I got my information, through somebody who works in regulatory on the drug and alcohol division.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Old School's Comment
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Roy B, your associations with users seem to be very close and tight. You're even married to one. Personally, I would take a different lesson away from all this than the one you took, but that's just me, and my handle describes me pretty well. I'm glad you're not using, but you sure could put a little more distance between yourself and those that do. You say you've started divorce proceedings - perhaps move somewhere else and start all over with a new set of friends would be wise also.

We all hope the best for you, but we also know a failed drug test is just about impossible to overcome in this career.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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