Getting Hire With Preventable Accidents

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Big Al's Comment
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Something doesn’t seem right here. Companies don’t fire for one preventable. So either Big Al ain’t dropping the whole story or that one preventable was a doozy like a roll over or something.

Big Al...you need to drop the whole story, in order for these people to properly help you.

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No the company first told me I would just have to take a drug test and long as I passed I’d be good(I can pass a drug test anytime). When I got back to the yard for my home time and went to the office to go take my drug test. Instead of them sending me for it the woman in safety told me just to go ahead and clean my truck out. But it wasn’t a roll over or nothing major.

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So it wasn’t just a preventable. You don’t get asked to take a drug test for a preventable. You are asked to take a drug test for a DOT recordable accident. Which means equipment was damage enough where one or both vehicles needed to be towed.

What type of accident? Did you rear end another vehicle? Head on?

You could try some of the second chance companies. Carolina Cargo, Western Express...good luck

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Something doesn’t seem right here. Companies don’t fire for one preventable. So either Big Al ain’t dropping the whole story or that one preventable was a doozy like a roll over or something.

Big Al...you need to drop the whole story, in order for these people to properly help you.

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No the company first told me I would just have to take a drug test and long as I passed I’d be good(I can pass a drug test anytime). When I got back to the yard for my home time and went to the office to go take my drug test. Instead of them sending me for it the woman in safety told me just to go ahead and clean my truck out. But it wasn’t a roll over or nothing major.

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So it wasn’t just a preventable. You don’t get asked to take a drug test for a preventable. You are asked to take a drug test for a DOT recordable accident. Which means equipment was damage enough where one or both vehicles needed to be towed.

What type of accident? Did you rear end another vehicle? Head on?

You could try some of the second chance companies. Carolina Cargo, Western Express...good luck

No the truck wasn’t towed drove it from Texas all the way back to Tennessee. No injuries and no one else was involved but me and the truck I was driving. Was a DOT recordable. It’s only reported as a accident from the company on my DAC report.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Rick S.'s Comment
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No the truck wasn’t towed drove it from Texas all the way back to Tennessee. No injuries and no one else was involved but me and the truck I was driving. Was a DOT recordable. It’s only reported as a accident from the company on my DAC report.

If no one was injured (as in, had to leave in an ambulance), and no vehicles were damaged to the point where it had to be towed from the scene - than it was NOT a "DOT Reportable". It was simply a "preventable".

Still unsure of the severity of the accident, or the circumstances - that would cause a company to SEND YOU HOME - instead of just some additional mandatory training.

And again - you are BEING VAGUE as to what you ACTUALLY DID, that caused the accident (because if it was preventable, then YOU CAUSED IT).

There's a big difference between taking out a pole coming out of a fuel island, and TAKING OUT A PUMP.

PULL YOUR DAC (you can do that) and see what it says. The biggest holdup would be INELIGIBLE FOR REHIRE, and also - if they told you to test and then DIDN'T TEST - you might have a REFUSAL TO TEST on there (which is basically the death knell for drivers).

Otherwise - start applying EVERYWHERE. Especially the starter and second chance companies, and accept the fact that you might have to re-do some training (at best), or something that you haven't disclosed here will preclude you from a hire AT ALL (at worst).

It's difficult to expect definitive suggestions, when you don't disclose DEFINITIVE DETAILS of the circumstances of the accident.

Rick

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Diver Driver's Comment
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As stated, very vague. But if you were ordered to take a DOT drug screen, and you drove from Texas to Tennessee, I've got a feeling that they marked you as a refusal. When ordered to take a DOT, you go directly to the collection site. Not to Wendy's to get lunch or anything else... that is out of your company's hands. It is governed by the fed's.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Rainy 's Comment
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As stated, very vague. But if you were ordered to take a DOT drug screen, and you drove from Texas to Tennessee, I've got a feeling that they marked you as a refusal. When ordered to take a DOT, you go directly to the collection site. Not to Wendy's to get lunch or anything else... that is out of your company's hands. It is governed by the fed's.

This is exactly what I was thinking. They probably expected you to go to an urgent care type of.facility immediately. Unfortunately this may have been a horrible case of miscommunication and rookie lack of understanding of processes. If I read that right, you returned to the terminal for home time, not the drug test.

I would probably be begging for.my job back, request more training, and offer to pay for a hair test myself. However, you waited 6 months to bother trying to return. THAT looks suspicious, like you were waiting for the hair to grow out.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Big Al's Comment
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As stated, very vague. But if you were ordered to take a DOT drug screen, and you drove from Texas to Tennessee, I've got a feeling that they marked you as a refusal. When ordered to take a DOT, you go directly to the collection site. Not to Wendy's to get lunch or anything else... that is out of your company's hands. It is governed by the fed's.

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This is exactly what I was thinking. They probably expected you to go to an urgent care type of.facility immediately. Unfortunately this may have been a horrible case of miscommunication and rookie lack of understanding of processes. If I read that right, you returned to the terminal for home time, not the drug test.

I would probably be begging for.my job back, request more training, and offer to pay for a hair test myself. However, you waited 6 months to bother trying to return. THAT looks suspicious, like you were waiting for the hair to grow out.

No the woman I talked to with the company told me that when I got back to the yard that she would send me the facility they use to take a drug test. I understand that it was my fault and I’ll need to do training. But the cop that came out didn’t even make a accident report he just gave me a ticket for not following a traffic device. When I applied for a new job and they called to checked that I worked for the old company that’s when the company told them I had a dot recordable accident and was terminated. Which I terminated when I got to the yard, because even before I left I asked if I still needed to do the drug test and was told no( it was going to be a simple pee test). I pulled my hireright report a few months ago and it show nothing on it. It didn’t even show that I worked for the company and I never got a W-2 from the company either to file on taxes. Called to get it and they said I didn’t have one. So I wonder if it’s like I never worked for them.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Old School's Comment
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I never got a W-2 from the company either to file on taxes. Called to get it and they said I didn’t have one. So I wonder if it’s like I never worked for them.

Big Al, I thought your story was strange due to the vagueness of it, but it gets even more ***** as you add the details. I'm not sure what to tell you.

Stevo Reno's Comment
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a ticket for not following a traffic device.

So a Speeding ticket actually...... O.S. lol sure is a lot who post a story in bits & pieces lately it seems.....

If they're going to even bother, then lay it ALL out in detail, as it happened .. Not dribbles and droplets, expecting, "Experienced" & proper answers to your questions, by those here who KNOW this industry better than ANY newbs lol

Almost comical some of the reads....Especially Trolls hahaconfused.gif

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Big Al's Comment
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I never got a W-2 from the company either to file on taxes. Called to get it and they said I didn’t have one. So I wonder if it’s like I never worked for them.

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Big Al, I thought your story was strange due to the vagueness of it, but it gets even more ***** as you add the details. I'm not sure what to tell you.

Yeah. It was a smile company I worked for. They only had like 100 trucks. But the accident was just a preventable not a dot reportable. But when I applied for a company after that accident they said the company reported on my DAC as a dot reportable. But I got a copy of my DAC like a month later after applying for that company from hire right and nothing is on my report. It’s clean don’t even show work history. So I asked the recruiter from the company I applied for and he confirmed he got that information when he called the company not from my report. I’m just wondering if I ever wanted to go back into trucking if I could just fill the application as a new driver with no experience, because I didn’t get a W-2 or anything. But I don’t plan on going back in the industry any time soon I have a good paying job and home every day.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

PackRat's Comment
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Well, I just read this one cover-to-cover and I’m still not sure what I read, let alone trying to have any takeaways.confused.gif

Rubber Duck's Comment
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Good news man. Companies will still hire you. But your going to want to keep this whole experience a secret from them. If you told a recruiter this story he would think your on acid.

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