Prime Upgrade Freeze

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Anthony's Comment
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Well friends, as I make my way through PSD training and learn my way around all the facilities, I am hearing more and more about the current Upgrade Freeze and the statement " for the first time there are too many drivers and not enough trucks".

I was hopeful this was not the case but seems to be one reason why the 50,000 mile rule for TNT was changed. Many drivers are stating ready for Upgrade to solo but are put on hold, and prolonging Team TNT.

Enduring or sticking with a company through tough times makes a dependable employee, but I wonder if it doesn't hurt Prime in the end vs slowing or freezing Recruiting.

Maybe you experienced truckers know more about it, but figured I would put a little confirmation to the rumor.

God bless.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.

TNT:

Trainer-N-Trainee

Prime Inc has their own CDL training program and it's divided into two phases - PSD and TNT.

The PSD (Prime Student Driver) phase is where you'll get your permit and then go on the road for 10,000 miles with a trainer. When you come back you'll get your CDL license and enter the TNT phase.

The TNT phase is the second phase of training where you'll go on the road with an experienced driver for 30,000 miles of team driving. You'll receive 14¢ per mile ($700 per week guaranteed) during this phase. Once you're finished with TNT training you will be assigned a truck to run solo.

Spaceman Spiff's Comment
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Hey Anthony,

I'm at campus upgrading right now, been here since last Friday. I would caution heavily against the rumor mill, the underground word, whatever you want to call it. Stand around the shuttle pick up areas for five minutes and you'll hear nothing but glory stories and what so and so heard about X. That's the incubator that propels a lot of false information, similar to YouTube and a lot of other trucking websites.

There's one last box I have to check to be a company driver and I'm right on target for Tuesday, getting paid all the while in my own room here.

In my short time here I would advise to find the silver lining or bright side in every situation. My happiest moments so far were between chaining all tires in 12 inches of snow on 395 in NV or re working a Sapa load over two days in 106 degree heat because I got to meet old school (twice!)

Trucks are here, business is still going and folks are upgrading. Keep the positive attitude and you'll be in a truck faster. Folks who are causing issues or refusing to learn the job will be the last in line for a truck.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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And by the way.... they did in fact cut back in recruiting and have over 300 trucks coming in shortly. They had 800 come in since Feb when i got mine. it took me 3 days to get a truck.

there are always truck rumors and a ton of lies about being a company driver.

Spaceman Spiff's Comment
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300 trucks! Good news for us upgraders

PackRat's Comment
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300 trucks! Good news for us upgraders

But you’re #301.sorry.gif

Bruce K.'s Comment
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300 trucks! Good news for us upgraders

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But you’re #301.sorry.gif

PackRat, that's just wrong, man.

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Spaceman Spiff's Comment
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Subtract 300 and you're spot on

Donna M.'s Comment
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Same talk when I went in, in January. Signed up one hour later I had the keys to a 2019 feightliner. Did have to wait one day for them to install the pc.

Matthew W.'s Comment
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Every company has Negative Nancys as the old name calling goes. Don't be that guy, or facilitate that type of behavior. A lot of times those guys are the future X employees at the company because they expect much and deliver little to earn it. Myself I have a pretty simple philosophy on work, always be a company man. By being a company man and making the company you work for profitable you secure your own pay check, so only a fool would behave differently. Company men don't talk bad about their employers, they get to work and make some money. If you reach a point where you can't be a company man for your employer, it's time to move on and find a new job. Don't sit there and stew about a job you dislike or a employer you can't perform for. You just make yourself miserable and generally end up getting fired with a bad reputation to go with it, that you then have to work through to get a new job.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

Bruce K.'s Comment
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Every company has Negative Nancys as the old name calling goes. Don't be that guy, or facilitate that type of behavior. A lot of times those guys are the future X employees at the company because they expect much and deliver little to earn it. Myself I have a pretty simple philosophy on work, always be a company man. By being a company man and making the company you work for profitable you secure your own pay check, so only a fool would behave differently. Company men don't talk bad about their employers, they get to work and make some money. If you reach a point where you can't be a company man for your employer, it's time to move on and find a new job. Don't sit there and stew about a job you dislike or a employer you can't perform for. You just make yourself miserable and generally end up getting fired with a bad reputation to go with it, that you then have to work through to get a new job.

Matthew, very well said. Your comment is spot on. Good job of explaining the right outlook.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

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