Drug Test Release On Application

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Bruce K.'s Comment
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Ok I see I’m not going to get my answer here, so moving on.

Jeremy, you could try Craigslist. I think they have a section called "rants" Then you can respond to your own rant and give yourself the answer you want.

Jeremy G.'s Comment
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Ok I see I’m not going to get my answer here, so moving on.

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Wrong. What you should have typed is, “I see I’m not going to get an answer I want to hear, so I’ll go somewhere safe and bash trucking companies as being unfair”.

This is what you are really thinking. The Truth.

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Wrong! I have never bashed any of the companies I’ve worked for, nor will I. I have been reading these forums for years and never said a thing. In fact when I’ve seen others bashing companies, I typically thought it was probably more their work ethic rather than the companies fault. I’ve asked a question and nobody has answered it. Maybe because nobody knows and that’s fine. All I’ve gotten is opinions. I have my reasons for not wanting my current employer to know I’m seeking other employment. My wife is on the road with me and I’m our only source of income. I can’t just say oh well, they cut my miles, or oh well they let me go I’ll find something else. People come here for help and if you’re not going to help them, why say anything at all? Truckers used to look out for each other, help each other. That all has seemed to have been lost somewhere.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Truckers used to look out for each other, help each other. That all has seemed to have been lost somewhere.

Oh, ok. Suddenly you're an old schooler now too? Please. Who are you looking out for?

How is a company going to approve you for hire without knowing the situation with your current employer or getting results of previous drug tests? They can't, obviously. You say you've always done it this way and it's never been a problem, so why are you here asking us about it then?

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Jeremy G.'s Comment
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Ok I see I’m not going to get my answer here, so moving on.

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Jeremy, you could try Craigslist. I think they have a section called "rants" Then you can respond to your own rant and give yourself the answer you want.

I’m not getting an answer at all. Has anyone answered my question? All I’ve gotten is opinions on what I should do. I imagine nobody knows the answer and that’s why and that’s fine. Just knew from years of reading these forums that there was good knowledge around here and someone might be know. I was trying to finish this application up tonight, so they would have it first thing in the morning.

PackRat's Comment
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Here’s an answer for you so you can sleep well tonight: Honesty. It’s always the best answer.

Sleep tight.

Rainy 's Comment
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Here's the answer to your question... YES your employer will most likely be alerted. When I applied to other companies, I later discussed it with my FM and he said those requests come across the same way a car loan or mortgage check comes through. He assumed I applied for a loan. I have no reason to not believe him. If he knew it was an app elsewhere, he would have been calling me asking me why i was leaving. If 20 different companoes contact.. then yeah a red flag may go up, or he might assume you have bad credit.

Companies use several different search options... they pay big bucks for them. Each have different databases so it is impossibke for us to answer exactly how they will do it or access it. As far as a DAC , the company has a time frame..i believe 30 days... to update your DAC after you leave. This is one more reason why some companies will run 2 checks...one before and one after orientation.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Jeremy G.'s Comment
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Here's the answer to your question... YES your employer will most likely be alerted. When I applied to other companies, I later discussed it with my FM and he said those requests come across the same way a car loan or mortgage check comes through. He assumed I applied for a loan. I have no reason to not believe him. If he knew it was an app elsewhere, he would have been calling me asking me why i was leaving. If 20 different companoes contact.. then yeah a red flag may go up, or he might assume you have bad credit.

Companies use several different search options... they pay big bucks for them. Each have different databases so it is impossibke for us to answer exactly how they will do it or access it. As far as a DAC , the company has a time frame..i believe 30 days... to update your DAC after you leave. This is one more reason why some companies will run 2 checks...one before and one after orientation.

Thank you! Thank you very much!

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Jeremy G.'s Comment
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Truckers used to look out for each other, help each other. That all has seemed to have been lost somewhere.

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Oh, ok. Suddenly you're an old schooler now too? Please. Who are you looking out for?

How is a company going to approve you for hire without knowing the situation with your current employer or getting results of previous drug tests? They can't, obviously. You say you've always done it this way and it's never been a problem, so why are you here asking us about it then?

Asking to speak to my current employer and asking for permission to release my drug tests are two completely different things. What I said is I’ve always declined them to speak with my current employer whether in trucking or other. I don’t remember when I first started with Prime or my current employer asking for permission to release my drug tests. Actually Prime May have asked for permission for my drug test for my Sage truck driving school. I’m not trying to be a jerk here, was just looking for an answer that I wasn’t getting. I tried searching around on the internet for an answer myself and also called the new prospective employer, but they had left for the day. So I thought of you guys. Also I’m not saying I’m an old schooler, I just know the way it was back in the day, because of friends of mine. I waited until my 40’s until I could finally pursue this dream of mine. I worked hard for it, I love it and I don’t want to screw anything up.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Turtle's Comment
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Asking to speak to my current employer and asking for permission to release my drug tests are two completely different things.

Denial of either is exactly the same thing, a red flag.

If a new company reaches the point of checking your work history, you're as good as hired already. As long as you're a suitable candidate with a good record, the call to your current employer is simply a formality, and shouldn't be feared. What are you afraid of?

Susan D. 's Comment
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Your answer was to CALL THEM AND ASk THEM. Then we recommended you just consent... unless you don't want that new job.

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