Concealed Carry Permit, Reciprocation.

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David F.'s Comment
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Opinions?

PackRat's Comment
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Opinions?

Illegal.

David F.'s Comment
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???

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Opinions?

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Illegal.

Old School's Comment
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How are our opinions gonna help you?

States either have reciprocity or they don't. I've been in thirteen states during the last three days. That includes New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, and New York.

I saw a man in Louisiana (another one of those thirteen states) in a small cafe with an open carry pistol on his hip. He'd be in jail if he went with me through some of those other states!

Every single customer I visited had multiple signs warning me that hand-guns were not allowed on their property. One of them one even let you on their property if you refuse to allow them to look through your truck.

There is no universal reciprocity among our states, and there are laws allowing our customers and employers to insist we don't bring a handgun.

What more can we say? It seems so silly for us who like to have laws allowing us to carry to just ignore the laws that limit the places we can carry. There's not a practical solution in my mind. My guns are at home locked up for when I want to use them. My winch bar, knife, chains, and fire extinguisher are readily at hand were I to ever need to use them.

I've never once felt the need to defend myself out here. Who am I surrounded by all the time? Fellow truckers just like myself. We park together, we work together, we help each other, and we load/unload at reputable businesses. I have never found myself in some sketchy back alley. Why would I?

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Suicide Jockey's Comment
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Most major carriers do not permit firearms in their trucks. I see you work for Swift, and I'm fairly certain they are among those that ban them. If you get dispatched into a state like NJ with insane anti gun laws, you could find yourself in some seriously hot water. Further more many customers ban firearms on their property.

I'd plan to use alternate tools for self defence.

While I agree with most of what Old School said, I don't agree with the last paragraph. Just because nothing had happened to you yet, doesn't mean it never will. Everyone feels a sense of complicit safely until the day they become the victim. Nearly everyday I'm somewhere ive never been before, and have no clue who or what is around. Plenty of news stories of truckers getting robbed or attacked inside truck stops. It's not the truckers I'm worried about, it's the locals.

I also have never been attacked, but...Just a day before I boarded the bus to come to Prime I was with my wife and two daughters (1 and 3 years old at the time) in the parking lot of a business in broad daylight. I never saw the guy coming, but suddenly I was confronted by a man demanding money. His tune quickly changed to "Hey it's all good Bro!", as he ran away, once he realised I had a 9mm pointed at his gut.

Thankfully I can still say I haven't been "attacked".

I don't carry a gun on my truck, but I always have something with me that can effectively be used in defence.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
G-Town's Comment
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OMG... Read your Swift driver handbook. It’s a policy violation and subject to immediate termination.

Rick S.'s Comment
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As others have said - it's against most company rules, and most shippers/receivers also prohibit them.

Also - many states you might travel through (especially NE) have some pretty draconian gun laws - the risk is very good if you get caught with one - you WILL see some jail time, and you will be a CONVICTED FELON and forfeit your right to own firearms.

So pretty much EVERYONE is going to recommend that you LEAVE IT AT HOME.

From a practical standpoint - if you have to HIDE IT, then it is of little use in a critical defense scenario anyways.

So despite the fact that your AZ CCW is reciprocal in more places than it is NOT, the risk to your career and/or freedom is a decision ONLY YOU CAN MAKE.

Rick

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

David F.'s Comment
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Once again I am not asking if I should or would be able to carry a gun. I do not and will not carry on my truck. I wish you could edit or delete post's on this forum.

As others have said - it's against most company rules, and most shippers/receivers also prohibit them.

Also - many states you might travel through (especially NE) have some pretty draconian gun laws - the risk is very good if you get caught with one - you WILL see some jail time, and you will be a CONVICTED FELON and forfeit your right to own firearms.

So pretty much EVERYONE is going to recommend that you LEAVE IT AT HOME.

From a practical standpoint - if you have to HIDE IT, then it is of little use in a critical defense scenario anyways.

So despite the fact that your AZ CCW is reciprocal in more places than it is NOT, the risk to your career and/or freedom is a decision ONLY YOU CAN MAKE.

Rick

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Rick S.'s Comment
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Once again I am not asking if I should or would be able to carry a gun. I do not and will not carry on my truck. I wish you could edit or delete post's on this forum.

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As others have said - it's against most company rules, and most shippers/receivers also prohibit them.

Also - many states you might travel through (especially NE) have some pretty draconian gun laws - the risk is very good if you get caught with one - you WILL see some jail time, and you will be a CONVICTED FELON and forfeit your right to own firearms.

So pretty much EVERYONE is going to recommend that you LEAVE IT AT HOME.

From a practical standpoint - if you have to HIDE IT, then it is of little use in a critical defense scenario anyways.

So despite the fact that your AZ CCW is reciprocal in more places than it is NOT, the risk to your career and/or freedom is a decision ONLY YOU CAN MAKE.

Rick

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What were you asking for then - OPINIONS?

I think IT SUCKS that I am not afforded the right to defend myself due to company policies and the draconian firearms laws of certain states. Doesn't mean I'm going to break the rules to do so.

That's my OPINION. Not sure what you were asking for then?

Rick

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

G-Town's Comment
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What was your point then? (Is it a full moon?)

You asked for opinions; instead you got facts. Sorry, that’s how it works here.

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