Question About Hazmat Expiration

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PlanB's Comment
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Been thinking about getting my hazmat so I'm going to start my tsa risk assessment when I get home in a couple days. The standard price risk assessment is good for 5 years. My question is does your CDL expiration date override that, or it keeps it's own expiration? Would they update/change your CDL expiration when you get the endorsement added, or it remains the same?

My CDL currently expires June 2022, while the 5 year hazmat would in theory expire sometime in mid to late 2024.

Alternatively the reduced rate is about $20 cheaper and would aline the hazmat expiration with my twic card, which expires October 2022.

Wondering if paying the extra $20 for the extra 2 years is well spent, or a waste if it will just expire in 2022 with my CDL anyway?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Big T's Comment
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They are separate. When I was licensed in Oregon I had to do my hazmat background check again even though Oregon's licenses are good for eight years.

If you don't do the background check then your cdl will be suspended until you either turn in the proof or drop the hazmat endorsement.

Been thinking about getting my hazmat so I'm going to start my tsa risk assessment when I get home in a couple days. The standard price risk assessment is good for 5 years. My question is does your CDL expiration date override that, or it keeps it's own expiration? Would they update/change your CDL expiration when you get the endorsement added, or it remains the same?

My CDL currently expires June 2022, while the 5 year hazmat would in theory expire sometime in mid to late 2024.

Alternatively the reduced rate is about $20 cheaper and would aline the hazmat expiration with my twic card, which expires October 2022.

Wondering if paying the extra $20 for the extra 2 years is well spent, or a waste if it will just expire in 2022 with my CDL anyway?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Rick S.'s Comment
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Typically - your CDL license expires when your HM Endorsement does.

Kind of irks me because typical florida CDL/License is good for 8 years, but HM is only good for 4. So I pay for a 8 year license that's only good for 4 years. That's in addition to the endorsement fee which is upwards of $100 - which includes the fingerprinting/background check.

You can get a TWIC Card that expires the same time as your HM endorsement - but each requires a separate fee and BG check (though last time I did mine, I got like a $20 discount for having a recent BG).

Rick

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Auggie69's Comment
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Been thinking about getting my hazmat so I'm going to start my tsa risk assessment when I get home in a couple days. The standard price risk assessment is good for 5 years. My question is does your CDL expiration date override that, or it keeps it's own expiration? Would they update/change your CDL expiration when you get the endorsement added, or it remains the same?

My CDL currently expires June 2022, while the 5 year hazmat would in theory expire sometime in mid to late 2024.

Alternatively the reduced rate is about $20 cheaper and would aline the hazmat expiration with my twic card, which expires October 2022.

Wondering if paying the extra $20 for the extra 2 years is well spent, or a waste if it will just expire in 2022 with my CDL anyway?

Don't bother to get a TWIC or Hazmat unless you can take advantage of either.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Bobcat_Bob's Comment
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Don't bother to get a TWIC or Hazmat unless you can take advantage of either.

I agree, I have to renew mine by my birthday in October went and got finger prints done and got my letter. If you do not need it there is no point in having it.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Auggie69's Comment
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Don't bother to get a TWIC or Hazmat unless you can take advantage of either.

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I agree, I have to renew mine by my birthday in October went and got finger prints done and got my letter. If you do not need it there is no point in having it.

Right. And even if you want to plan ahead, go for the Hazmat and not TWIC.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

PlanB's Comment
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As I mentioned I already have TWIC. Prime had me get it right away. Have used it probably 4 or 5 times at ports I've picked up in.

Looking at getting my hazmat because even tho I love OTR and Prime, it's having an increasingly detrimental effect on my family. I gave up training new drivers because it was keeping me away from home longer. Now it's still getting harder and harder to meet the needs of my family while I'm OTR. Trying to open up my pool of local possibilities. There's a cluster of a half dozen or so fuel hauling carriers just 3 miles from my house. Multiple LTL carrier terminals about 40 - 90 minutes from house. Both of those options would require hazmat endorsements. Fuel hauling would also require the TWIC , which I already have.

My best non hazmat or TWIC option would probably be a Sysco foods roughly 5 miles from my house. I'm just not sure I'm ready to condemn myself to the inevitable knee/back problems many of those guys develop over time. The few I've had the opportunity to speak to were all wrapped up in knee and back supports and admitted the job is hard on the body.

Enough rambling from me. Thank you for the responses.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Auggie69's Comment
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As I mentioned I already have TWIC. Prime had me get it right away. Have used it probably 4 or 5 times at ports I've picked up in.

Looking at getting my hazmat because even tho I love OTR and Prime, it's having an increasingly detrimental effect on my family. I gave up training new drivers because it was keeping me away from home longer. Now it's still getting harder and harder to meet the needs of my family while I'm OTR. Trying to open up my pool of local possibilities. There's a cluster of a half dozen or so fuel hauling carriers just 3 miles from my house. Multiple LTL carrier terminals about 40 - 90 minutes from house. Both of those options would require hazmat endorsements. Fuel hauling would also require the TWIC , which I already have.

My best non hazmat or TWIC option would probably be a Sysco foods roughly 5 miles from my house. I'm just not sure I'm ready to condemn myself to the inevitable knee/back problems many of those guys develop over time. The few I've had the opportunity to speak to were all wrapped up in knee and back supports and admitted the job is hard on the body.

Enough rambling from me. Thank you for the responses.

Had a friend who left FXF to go to Sheetz to haul fuel.

Don't know anyone that's left to haul food ;)

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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