Made A Costly Mistake

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Old School's Comment
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What happens when you get a HOS violation? I got one last week for going over my 14. It happened five miles from where I was going to park.

Typically, with something like what you described, nothing happens. The slight possibility that an officer wants to scrutinize your logs sometime in the next eight days could cause you some anxiety, but it's doubtful he's gonna hit you for such a slight infraction. It's also possible that some unknown person in the logs department at your company may give you a call wanting to know what happened, but even that is unlikely in the scenario you described.

After eight days has passed, it won't be available for the officer to see. Here's some incidental information others should know. It's important for you to understand how to show the officer a "roadside view" of your electronic logs. When I put my ELD system onto "roadside view" it shows the logs graph in a grey-scale" view. In other words it's not in color. Violations are not showing up in that glaring red color. It's much more tedious for the officer to discover a slight variation of the rules in that screen shot view. It also (at least on ours) locks the officer out of other areas in your ELD that he doesn't necessarily have the right to be viewing during an inspection.

Electronic Logs:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Jim S.'s Comment
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What happens when you get a HOS violation? I got one last week for going over my 14. It happened five miles from where I was going to park.

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Typically, with something like what you described, nothing happens. The slight possibility that an officer wants to scrutinize your logs sometime in the next eight days could cause you some anxiety, but it's doubtful he's gonna hit you for such a slight infraction. It's also possible that some unknown person in the logs department at your company may give you a call wanting to know what happened, but even that is unlikely in the scenario you described.

After eight days has passed, it won't be available for the officer to see. Here's some incidental information others should know. It's important for you to understand how to show the officer a "roadside view" of your electronic logs. When I put my ELD system onto "roadside view" it shows the logs graph in a grey-scale" view. In other words it's not in color. Violations are not showing up in that glaring red color. It's much more tedious for the officer to discover a slight variation of the rules in that screen shot view. It also (at least on ours) locks the officer out of other areas in your ELD that he doesn't necessarily have the right to be viewing during an inspection.

Thanks for the tip.

Electronic Logs:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Chris L's Comment
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Old School wrote

Chris, do you guys have PC (Personal Conveyance) available to you? I will use it to reposition my truck (if necessary) while "off duty." I can't vouch for the legality of it, but nobody gripes at me for doing it.

The company owner put the kybosch on "Personal Conveyance" We don't have that option. My screw up I thought if I moved "On Duty - Yard move" I'd be covered since I was only moving less than a quarter mile from the street to the door. But because I had no HOS time it still put me into Violation. Looking back I should have checked in an hour prior to my appointment that would have put me close to my 8 hour reset. Normally this place is busy on a Monday morning but today it was slow and I got in right away.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Auggie69's Comment
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I made a costly mistake this morning. I moved my truck before I had completed my 8 hours in sleeper birth. So now I have to wait and complete another 10 hours reset. Since it's Monday I didn't expect to get into a door earlier than my scheduled appointment. But I checked in and they had an open door. I tried to move and keep my speed under 3 mph when I moved but the truck speed poped over 5mph and my ELD put me into drive mode and I was flagged for a HOS violation Dohhh. So now I'm sitting outside the distributor in northern Philadelphia not being able to to move until my clock resets again. My company just upgraded to the new EDL system and it's not as forgiving as the old one. I talked to our compliance manager and my fleet manager about it and they both told me that I'm not the first one to screw up. But lesson learned I'll make sure I plan better so I don't run into this problem again.

Welcome to my world.

Had a long run that pushed my 14. Got a call the next morning to go on a shorter run but my gate time was close to my 10hrs.

I was on autopilot when I got to the yard. 30 minutes to pretrip and out the gate. Hopped in the cab and logged in - 3 minutes before my 10hrs was good.

Bossman said, "Adios, have a nice day off".

argh

Fleet Manager:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Drew Oswalt's Comment
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I'm lucky. I've gone 12 mph and was still on sleeper status. The 3 other trucks I've driven change status at 4 or 5 mph. I'll have to remember to check in the morning to see at what speed the Qualcomm switches me to on-duty /driving. I always forget.

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.
PackRat's Comment
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I'm lucky. I've gone 12 mph and was still on sleeper status. The 3 other trucks I've driven change status at 4 or 5 mph. I'll have to remember to check in the morning to see at what speed the Qualcomm switches me to on-duty /driving. I always forget.

You still have an AOBRD. 18 DEC is the deadline for the switch.

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.
Drew Oswalt's Comment
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I'm lucky. I've gone 12 mph and was still on sleeper status. The 3 other trucks I've driven change status at 4 or 5 mph. I'll have to remember to check in the morning to see at what speed the Qualcomm switches me to on-duty /driving. I always forget.

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You still have an AOBRD. 18 DEC is the deadline for the switch.

Dang. That sucks. I guess that's what my driver manager meant by "new system".

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.

Driver Manager:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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I haven’t played with it much, but it seems to be easier to creep in SB without it switching to drive line than in OD

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