Owner Operator

Cornelius, from the numbers you've given us those expedited drivers had to turn 125,000 paid miles per year averaging $2.00 per mile. That's an incredible number of miles at a very high pay rate for a small truck in a specialized fleet, eh?

Yesterday at a pickup I had an owner op parked next to me. He came over and started asking questions about my employer and asked what they pay us. I told him and he started laughing, claiming he makes 70-90 per hour for ALL his time in the truck, including sleeping. In the very next sentence he started talking about how he hasn't gone home since labor day (its now new years eve, in case this is read later). Apparently his wife has been begging him to take hometime but he needs money because he needs to put his truck in the shop. I wasnt going to get into an arguement with him so I just laughed and told him i needed the restroom and to stay safe. If this guy is making 70-90 an hour 24 hours a day hes making nearly $1700 PER DAY on the low end. Man I love hearing some of the crap many O/O come up with. He "makes" such great money but hasn't been home because he needs to pay the upcoming repair bill on the truck.

He maybe making 1,700 a day in his truck but it sure ain't from driving.

Man I love hearing some of the crap many O/O come up with

I've been listening to it for 26 years. We'll still be listening to it 26 years from now.

If I made that much per day, I'd never go home either.

Christmas Pup and I just love it when this topic comes up!! Jared, Kudos to you for not going all bristly ridgeback beast when the "slow down" advice starts... still amazes me when I hear drivers bragging about earning 200k+ per year as o/o. I don't even engage in the convo anymore... gross and net seem foreign concepts to some of them fellers.

I didnt want to come back to this thread but beside doing insurance , i have invested in a logistic company that was started in 2016 and currently runs 30 trucks... the way we make our money is by booking loads for box trucks because that is all we specialize in and i know how much the CPM is for the loads we book. We only own 4 trucks plus 26 owner operators.... i respect Brett's vision and mission which is why i have never disclosed this... i roam around this forum because of all the advice that is given in here and when i see a question that draws my curiosity , i call my good friend who was the VP of operations at Schneider for 20 years and Roehl for 15... This site has helped me improve my safety department but i know the freight rates because that is how i make my living: booking freight. i know how much the drivers my company dispatches gross a week

they gross around $5k per week , 13% goes to the dispatching company and the rest goes towards all the expenses that comes with trucking , from looking at their financials their take home is around 2k a week

You never answered my last question. You're saying these guys are grossing $250,000/year. So they're turning 125,000 paid miles per year averaging $2.00 per mile in a straight truck?

Cornelius - if box truck drivers are making as much as you claim, why do you still rely on owner ops? If their "take home" is 2,000 a week why not hire more drivers for $17 an hour (going rate in my city) and keep a larger share of the money?

Like i said , we are a logistic company booking loads for them .... we dont want to go through the headaches that comes with owning a truck ... repairs . maintenance et al.... so we charge o/o 13% of their gross for which 1.5% goes to the factoring company ..... box trucks are mostly used b2y production companies that have production deadlines to meet which is why you have to gain the trust of the brokerage to run box trucks, once you have the reputation for on time delivery they use you more.... and Brett to answer your question yes if they were running 52 weeks a year they would but most of them run hard then take some few months of vacation to go to their countries...