CCW Reciprocity For Truck Drivers Now?

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VictoriaIsland's Comment
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This would be a great time for trucking to ask trump to help get CCW Reciprocity for truck drivers across the lower 48 pushed. Truckers have always been at higher risk and now at times like this where items are in low supply, a truck may look like an extra juicy target, not to mention places like California are letting a majority of their criminals out onto the streets because of the risk of spreading the virus in jail/prison.

Now add in the fact that truckers are being forced to park in less safe areas due to many rest stops being closed down and even some truck stops closing up.

I think now would be a good time to ask for a trucker's right to CCW across all state lines.

Carriers should also not restrict legal CCW of a driver under their employment for fear of liability, Those that restrict drivers from CCW tend to do so because of insurance reasons, I am sure the government can help with legislation to free up a carrier from any liability for a legal CCW driver.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
PackRat's Comment
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What about 90% of the shippers and receivers that have signs posted prohibiting weapons on their property?

Trucks and their drivers have always gone to less-than-ideal locations. We will continue to do so after all this media-created hype blows over, too.

I do not want more big government rules and regulations in trucking. Perhaps you don't realize how much there is already? I've seen many, many adult children have tantrums and complete meltdowns over something as benign as a parking slot. Let's make it easier to get a CDL and carry a weapon, too? I pray not.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Pacific Pearl's Comment
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Funny thing about all these, "emergency measures" - they are all about doing what the politicians/special interests wanted to do anyway NOT what's necessarily best for the common man. New Orleans. LA, Sacramento, CA and Champaign, IL among other communities are using their powers to close gun stores and ban the buying and selling of ammo. An armed population is a significant barrier to mass compliance to whatever bizarre, oppressive regulations they dream up next.

I stopped by a local gun store this morning about 10 minutes before they opened. There were 20 people in line ahead of me! Fortunately, my armory is already well-stocked. I pity the folks who waited until the last minute to prepare.

Auggie69's Comment
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This would be a great time for trucking to ask trump to help get CCW Reciprocity for truck drivers across the lower 48 pushed. Truckers have always been at higher risk and now at times like this where items are in low supply, a truck may look like an extra juicy target, not to mention places like California are letting a majority of their criminals out onto the streets because of the risk of spreading the virus in jail/prison.

Now add in the fact that truckers are being forced to park in less safe areas due to many rest stops being closed down and even some truck stops closing up.

I think now would be a good time to ask for a trucker's right to CCW across all state lines.

Carriers should also not restrict legal CCW of a driver under their employment for fear of liability, Those that restrict drivers from CCW tend to do so because of insurance reasons, I am sure the government can help with legislation to free up a carrier from any liability for a legal CCW driver.

Silly person. You obviously don't know the 2d Amendment reads " ... to keep and BEAR arms shall not be infringed, unless you have a CDL".

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Errol V.'s Comment
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Few, if any, trucking companies will put up with setting up training and certification for drivers desiring to carry weapons in THEIR equipment and for L/Os with THEIR NAME painted on the side.

They have enough going on already, dealing with "big truck" lawsuits and such, and aren't interested in the ramifications and liability of unmanaged firearms associated with their company.

Auggie69's Comment
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Few, if any, trucking companies will put up with setting up training and certification for drivers desiring to carry weapons in THEIR equipment and for L/Os with THEIR NAME painted on the side.

They have enough going on already, dealing with "big truck" lawsuits and such, and aren't interested in the ramifications and liability of unmanaged firearms associated with their company.

Doesn't really matter does it? You now have governors closing down gun shops as "non-essential". So much for personal protection whether at home or in a truck.

That didn't take long, did it? I know when they reopen I will NOT be caught dead to rights again. I've had a nice collection in the past, some nice carry firearms, and I will do so again.

I will NOT count on the government to ALLOW me to exercise my 2d Amendment right during a time of "crises".

Frankly, let ME decide should I carry a firearm on my vehicle. What, will they fire me? Well, then that's on me.

Better to be judged by 12 than carried by six.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
PJ's Comment
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I have read along, but waited to chime in. As many here know I am honorably retired law enforcement. I am legally allowed to carry concealed under federal law. Do I carry in the truck??? No I don’t.

As already pointed out the legal red tape is simply not worth it. There are many options available that are effective without the legal issues for self protection. Alot of folks do not fully understand the legal threshold required for the display and use of a firearm. In 6+ years I have never felt the need, and yes I have been in some sketchy areas. Common sense and situational awareness goes a long way to not inviting yourself to become a victim.

My company has a policy against firearms as the majority of customers. I am here to make a living. It is a personal choice. Do you want to take a chance to not make a living or stand on your soapbox. I have a nice little aresnal with ammo at home, and it stays there when I am working.

This is not about your rights in anyway shape or form. It is about following the rules the person paying you has established for their business. If you don’t like the rules it is your choice to work there or not, but not to bash the employer.

Learn some basic self defense techniques and go to Lowe’s and buy a can of wasp spray.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Pacific Pearl's Comment
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Alot of folks do not fully understand the legal threshold required for the display and use of a firearm.

This I agree with. At a minimum, take a concealed carry class BEFORE you carry. Laws vary considerably by state. It's pretty easy to commit a felony without even knowing it. In Arizona you can shoot someone to prevent them from committing arson of an occupied structure (no, you don't need to check whether the structure is occupied before shooting). You can shoot someone to prevent a rape, a kidnapping, a child from being molested and to prevent six other things BUT if you get into a fist fight while carrying - even if the other guy started it; even if you never mentioned, displayed, touched or unholstered your weapon - that's a FELONY!

Of course, even if you're in the right it can take years and six-figures in legal fees to convince the judge that someone really needed to be shot. In addition to your struggle with the State you can expect the dead man's estate, his wife, his ex-wife, his girlfriend, his parents, his kids and his dog to all sue you in civil court as well.

It makes me cringe every time a read about some hothead jerking his pistol out because the truck in front of him was taking too long to fuel at the truck stop. Every driver of a certain age has a similar reaction thinking about Reginald Denny. For the young'uns a 36-year-old truck driver stopped at a traffic light in Los Angeles on April 29, 1992 (Los Angeles Riots/Rodney King). At least six men pulled him out of his truck and beat him so severely that he suffered permanent brain damage. After years of rehabilitation he has trouble walking and talking to this day.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

PJ's Comment
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The 1992 riots in LA were very messy in many ways. I was there and saw all the chaos. The incident with Mr. Denny was very horrific but also a extremly rare and isolated incident. There were many store owners being beaten very badly by looters also. Some shop owners were arming themselves and shooting at people they thought were going to loot their stores.

Every agency with a swat team were deployed there under mutual aid to get the city back under control.

Not something I ever want to see again

Pacific Pearl's Comment
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....very horrific but also a extremly rare and isolated incident.

Sounds a lot like what we've got going on right now. Literally millions of folks are out of work, aren't supposed to leave their homes, don't know when they'll be able to return to work, have bills due and hungry kids at home. Oh yeah, and there's a lethal virus floating around too. If that's not a recipe for civil unrest, looting, mischief and mayhem I don't know what is.

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