GED Or HSD? What Were YOU Told?

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Steven K.'s Comment
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Hello! I was just writing in to ask some of you what you're experience has been with CRST and CR England. Have you gotten misinformation?

SO heres the gist of the situation. I signed my husband up for this site a few weeks ago and got a call from a recruiter who said he was with CRST. (yay!) Well my husband wasnt here so i asked some questions and got some basic answers and i was told they would go over everything at a later phone call. (Tuesday the 26th of may) I asked the man i think his name was adam, if a GED or HSD was required. He said My husband must have one or the other. I told him my husband has a High school equivalency, also called a certificate of completion. He said that should work just fine but he would look into it for us by the time he called my husband back for his interview. Ok cool.

I also asked about DL requirements as we live in one state (temporary) but we have DL from CA. I asked him if that would be an issue. He said there might be an issue but that my husband could just transfer his DL to Nevada or go to a school in CA as long as it was within 1 hour of his "team pickup location"

Fast forward to the second call.... He talks to my husband for nearly an hour about EVERYTHING. He told him after researching it further the equivalency would not work do to restriction on employment and placement. He said that my husband would need to complete a HSD/GED before he could be given a CDL through any of their sponsored schools. He also informed us that he would only be able to go to a school in the home-state that he had his DL in. Because getting a new Lic in any other state would restart the required 3 yrs clean driving record? He also said that doing cross state schooling wasn't allowed because there are different requirements in each state.

Again fast forward to today! My dad calls me to inform me that someone is lying! He told me that he called several googled trucking schools one of them being crst and cr england and i think he said prime inc as well. They all told him TOTALLY the opposite of what we were told? They told him No ged or hsd was ever required!? Not only that but apparently you can go to school anywhere at anytime no matter what state lic you have? You just have to ask for home time in the state you're currently in? So whats the deal? Has anyone else been told these things? I really need to know. Either im crazy or unintentionally spouting bias from some idiot who didnt know what he was talking about?

On a side note back in 2016 i had applied through CR england and was told that i would have to travel to Iowa to go to school. I was told if i lied on my app at all then i would be removed from the program and would not have a return fare paid to get home. The lady at the time had asked me if i had a HSD/GED. I told her NO. She then asked if i would be willing to get one. I said yes. She told me that i must have one before i graduated because they would not give me a return ticket as it would also be a failure to complete the program requirements. Essentially i would be stranded a long way from my then home of PA. On top of that i was told my home time would only be granted in CA as thats where my DL was issued. These "lies" are either common or intentional... Why am i getting several stories that match but my dad is being told the opposite during initial phone calls?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Rob T.'s Comment
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Most people that go through Paid CDL Training Programs do so in a different state than where they reside. His license will need to be valid with a current address. That may he waived currently due to most DMV offices around the country being shutdown for Covid but at a minimum it needs to be in the state you currently reside. Some programs have you set up a temporary residence in their state and transfer your license back to your home state after. Each program does things just a little different. As far the GED/ HSD question goes I can't answer that because I dont recall ever seeing anything like this coming across the forum before. If not having a GED is what's preventing him from landing a job is it possible to get it? It sounds like everything your dad was told regarding licensing and hometime is accurate.

Were CR England and CRST the only ones he heard back from? They're both solid choices but there are a ton of other companies out there that offer paid training as well. Swift, Schneider, Werner and CFI are a few companies that come to mind that aren't included in the application here. Please let us know what you find out

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Stevo Reno's Comment
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CRST does NOT require any kind of diploma lol Recruiters don't know everything , I doubt others require such either! Students come from all over the US You should see some of the personalities that come n go thru CRST's terminals/schools

I was recruited for Gardner's,(sister company) by CRST's dedicated recruiter in the Iowa main terminal. She never mentioned a $1000, to me. In Orientation at Gardner's we were told about it! When I said the recruiter never mentioned that? Lady replied "they don't know it all" lol

In the 3rd n 6th months, a $500 in 1 lump sum.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Stevo Reno's Comment
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*typo* forgot "$1000 signing bonus" 8 months later after I had to email the VP about my military bonus I never got, 2 days later I got that $500 my recruiter kept dropping the ball and excuses RE: my DD214 unreadable (1977 form turned yellow from age) failed tio inform me of this problem So I scanned fresh copy n sent it in.....Still no response until I reached out to head guy lol He also helped me out on a non paid, $300 layover pay ,when I got the run around from my DM. Week later I got that bonus as well lol

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Greg M.'s Comment
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In my opinion you are trying way too hard to fight the process. When contacted by a company truthfully answer their questions and provide any documentation they need and move forward. Asking a bunch of questions and then cross refrencing on the internet to catch the "liers" is a waste of time and counter productive. When I signed up for company paid trainning my initial call with the recruiter was 10 mins tops and I had an offer and a start date. Couple follow up emails after and that was it.

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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In my opinion you are trying way too hard to fight the process. When contacted by a company truthfully answer their questions and provide any documentation they need and move forward. Asking a bunch of questions and then cross refrencing on the internet to catch the "liers" is a waste of time and counter productive. When I signed up for company paid trainning my initial call with the recruiter was 10 mins tops and I had an offer and a start date. Couple follow up emails after and that was it.

I agree. One issue is legalities, another is the state and one is company policy. Prime used to have the MO school students get their permits in MO despite me being from NJ. If you went to the UT or PA school, you kept your permit in the home state. that changed last year so now you have a home state permit, test in another state, then return home to update the CDL.

I don't recall being asked about education at Prime... not high school. i think they did ask if i had a college degree but it was more like one of those "hobbies" questions on job apps. It could be true that some companies require a HSD/GED. No one checked or asked for a high school.

As far as the hometime in your home state.. that could be a company specific thing. Prime lets me go anywhere for hometime.... but other companies may require the truck to be parked at a terminal and therefore require you to live within a radius of a terminal.

If you dont feel you are getting answers from phone calls..... bad idea in my opinion.... do it by email and have written proof of a conversation...then ask for the recruiting supervisor.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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