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John Y.'s Comment
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Ok so here goes. So I got my CDL-A back in July and had my physical done in my state where I attended school. When I had physical there were no restrictions. Started with Mega carrier 2-weeks later(orientation). This company isn’t in my state and for whatever reason I had new physical by a Dr. they use and he recommended a sleep study and issued a 3 month medical paper. My State BMV still has my original Medical form listed on my record of State BMV site, I haven’t reported/turned in out of State medical form to my State BMV nor has the company that I’m currently driving for. I’m leaving the Mega carrier here in two weeks to go work for a smaller more local company back in my home state. This job change is also being done before I’m to have the sleep study done. So my questions are as follows:

1) Was or is the second medical form to be turned in or over to my State BMV or is the Mega Carrier waiting on sleep study results and updated physical after sleep study? 2) Who is responsible for reporting medical form to State BMV? 3) Since I’m leaving/changing jobs and going back to home State/local job do or can I just fall back to original/1st medical form which is what is actually on my license/record with my State BMV?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Bmv:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

PJ's Comment
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John your responsible for registering your med card with your state, not the carrier. Alot of big companies use their own medical folks, their preferrence.

Bottom line is your original is good and I would just disregard the other.

I would have a couple concerns.

1. why is there such a difference between the two dot physicals?

2. It sounds like you have no expetience. Are you positive this smaller company will be able to insure you?

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

John Y.'s Comment
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PJ, Thanks for your reply and I thought that I was the responsible for getting info to my State. Yes I’m new to driving but I’m not young and naive. Yes quite sure about being able to be insured due to we already checked on that. As far as the two differences with physicals...well the second Dr basically based his decision off of my neck measurement!! I know he was a Chiropractor but I think he’s very ODD to say the least. Later I was told by many other same company drivers that 80% of employees that are seen by him have to go for sleep studies.

PJ's Comment
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That sounds like a racket to me. That is an awfully high percentage. Just my opinion.

Dan F.'s Comment
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A neck measurement is not indicative of sleep apnea , opening your mouth wide and looking near the tonsil area to see if it is a wide opening or a narrow opening is the best method and almost nobody seems to notice because they are not specialists and therefore not qualified qualified. . A neck measurement is not indicative of sleep apnea, opening your mouth wide and looking near the tonsil area to see if it is a wide opening or a narrow opening is the best method. . I had a conversation with the doctor about this.

PJ, Thanks for your reply and I thought that I was the responsible for getting info to my State. Yes I’m new to driving but I’m not young and naive. Yes quite sure about being able to be insured due to we already checked on that. As far as the two differences with physicals...well the second Dr basically based his decision off of my neck measurement!! I know he was a Chiropractor but I think he’s very ODD to say the least. Later I was told by many other same company drivers that 80% of employees that are seen by him have to go for sleep studies.

Sleep Apnea:

A physical disorder in which you have pauses in your breathing, or take shallow breaths, during sleep. These pauses can last anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. Normal breathing will usually resume, sometimes with a loud choking sound or snort.

In obstructive sleep apnea, your airways become blocked or collapse during sleep, causing the pauses and shallow breathing.

It is a chronic condition that will require ongoing management. It affects about 18 million people in the U.S.

Rob T.'s Comment
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You're required to register the 3 month card. The previous card becomes invalid even if it was for 2 years. There is a paper trail and in the event something major happens it will be discovered. You're also asked on the long form if you've ever been issued a card for less than 2 years. It's a federal offense if its determined you knowingly lied on it. Could you get away with it? Maybe, but personally I don't think it's worth the gamble.

We have a member that had plenty of time left on their medical card. They went for a physical to switch to jobs and determined they had diabetes that wasn't under control. They were denied a new medical card and were immediately ineligible to drive. Any time you get a new physical you must update it with the state. In Iowa, all I do is send them a scanned copy of my medical card to an email found on the DMV page and then check my license status about a week later to ensure it was updated correctly.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

John Y.'s Comment
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Rob T. When it comes to being asked if I’ve ever been issued a card for less than 2 yrs on the long form it’s simple I just say yes my first card because it’s actually for a year due to I’m type 2 diabetic. So I wouldn’t technically be lying.

Rob T.'s Comment
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Rob T. When it comes to being asked if I’ve ever been issued a card for less than 2 yrs on the long form it’s simple I just say yes my first card because it’s actually for a year due to I’m type 2 diabetic. So I wouldn’t technically be lying.

The doctors submit paperwork to the FMCSA. If you're willing to risk steep steep federal penalties to get around a sleep study that's your choice. We teach best practices but at the end of the day you're responsible for your own actions. If it's something you're ok with then by all means do so.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
JakeBreak's Comment
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Yes you have to register the current 3 month card, but you can also go back to the same doctor that gave you your original card and have him recertify you for the 1 yr card or whatever. The important thing is to make sure you answer all the questions the same on all the paperwork. Otherwise you could get in trouble for "Dr. shopping." There are plenty of drs. and chiropractors who get kickbacks for these stupid sleep studies and will send every driver they get for one. Its dumb but thats the government for you.

PackRat's Comment
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Its dumb but thats the government for you.

Explain how the government is involved with questionable doctors recommending a sleep study?

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