Private CDL School Course Curriculum Interpretation Help Needed

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Banks's Comment
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Here are some of the problems the school is facing. They are associated with the Community College and credits are earned for completing the course... Since the DMV can only handle so many tests per week it has log jammed our school, and many students are still in the 3 week course after 5 weeks and still haven't tested. I realize it's not all of the schools fault, but I would have expected them to inform me that I needed to possibly budget 5 weeks to complete the course vs the 3 weeks that I agreed to.

My original question still stands. Did I misunderstand or did the school misrepresent? In regards to the 4o hours behind the wheel

They misrepresented. The DMV has always been backlogged with tests, this isn't something new. That's why they started allowing third party exam sites. My road test was scheduled as soon as FedEx hired me for that reason and I still had to drive 3 hours to the test site because every local dmv was backlogged for months. This was way before COVID.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Davy A.'s Comment
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Hmm. I went with Knight Transportation, was nice, they paid me to go to school, its AZ so its only 120 hours. We had 3 students my weeks class. 1 of which dropped out, leaving us 2. The level of instruction was superb. We were able to drive the vehicles each day for at least an hour each, if not more. Yesterday before the test, we each drove for a couple hours. One of the days I had the truck to myself with the instructor, we spend 3 plus hours driving and 4 doing backing on the pad. Total number of students between 3 weeks worth of classes never seemed to exceed 7 or 8 between 4 instructors.

I tested today and passed. All this while getting paid and knowing that I was hired before I even started school. There is a reason why the advice on this site is so useful, its hard won experience. Hopefully you can get some remedy for you cash spent, get hired and trained with a company provided or sponsored training. If nothing else, your story certainly reaffirms the advice freely giving at Trucking Truth.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

G-Town's Comment
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Shadow, the issues you are now having were addressed 5 months ago when we overwhelming advised you to take the path of Paid CDL Training Programs.

Here is a link to your initial introductory thread... One on One CDL School

Sorry you are having troubles... we did warn you, especially Old School.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Big Scott (CFI's biggest 's Comment
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Shadow, pass your CDL exam and they will give you your certificate. Then find a company to hire and train you.

Good luck.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Shadow Trucker's Comment
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I paid $4,000.00 out of my pocket, no grants. Yes I can continue to train until my test date. So I will end up getting 5 weeks of training and then I will test. I was really planning in completing the course in 3 weeks because my opportunity cost is high by not being able to run my current business as effectively because of the 8-5 school commitment.

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Here are some of the problems the school is facing. They are associated with the Community College and credits are earned for completing the course... Since the DMV can only handle so many tests per week it has log jammed our school, and many students are still in the 3 week course after 5 weeks and still haven't tested. I realize it's not all of the schools fault, but I would have expected them to inform me that I needed to possibly budget 5 weeks to complete the course vs the 3 weeks that I agreed to.

My original question still stands. Did I misunderstand or did the school misrepresent? In regards to the 4o hours behind the wheel

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Haya, Shadow Trucker . . .

Quick question; Was your schooling paid through a WIOA grant? (If not, what 'was' the cost?) << might be irrelevant; just trying to figure this out.

Also; any way you could post a copy of your contract on here? Might help these guys above (and others) interpret your situation better. IMHO, you are probably still going to have to sign on with a 'training company.' You've got no road time at all; wondering how you are even going to pass a road test. I'm not being snarky by any means; my other half went to Roadmasters in 2003 and I've still got his 160 certificate in a file, somewhere. He recalls having around 20 hours of road time.

Just thinking out loud, trying to help. I think it's a bit of both; misunderstanding AND misrepresentation. Seeing your paper copy would help us help ya~!!

~ Anne ~

ps: With that 'extra' 2 week drag, for testing, why can't/won't they let you DRIVE whilst waiting for the DMV?!?!?

WIOA:

WIOA - Workforce Innovation & Opportunity Act (aka WIA)

Formerly known as the Workforce Investment Act (WIA), the WIOA was established in 1998 to prepare youth, adults and dislocated workers for entry and reentry into the workforce. WIOA training funds are designed to serve laid-off individuals, older youth and adults who are in need of training to enter or reenter the labor market. A lot of truck drivers get funding for their CDL training through WIOA.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Shadow Trucker's Comment
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I did my research. The Paid CDL Training Programs is not what I want to do. That path may be good for some people but there is no One Size Fits All.

Shadow, the issues you are now having were addressed 5 months ago when we overwhelming advised you to take the path of Paid CDL Training Programs.

Here is a link to your initial introductory thread... One on One CDL School

Sorry you are having troubles... we did warn you, especially Old School.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Shadow Trucker's Comment
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Thanks Big Scott

Shadow, pass your CDL exam and they will give you your certificate. Then find a company to hire and train you.

Good luck.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Old School's Comment
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I did my research. The Paid CDL Training Programs is not what I want to do. That path may be good for some people but there is no One Size Fits All.

Why are you in here complaining about your choice?

You made a decision, and now you are complaining that you didn't get what you paid for. I can't figure you out. It certainly doesn't seem that you really want to be a driver. You don't need a CDL to be a broker. Why are you wasting the money for a CDL? Just go do the thing that you are wanting to do. This sounds like it is costing you a lot more than you should be spending right now. I'm sorry we couldn't help you better, but it helps a little if we know what your goals are.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
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