Ordained Minister And Trucking

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James H.'s Comment
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You will have to declare your work hours against your 70 hour clock (will be explained in CDL Academy).

This is likely to be the main issue. Whether you're doing God's work or anyone else's, if you're being paid for it, it doesn't count as off-duty for HOS purposes. If you're working a typical M-F linehaul job it's a lot less complicated than it can get for OTR , but you'll need at least 10 consecutive hours off-duty every day, and an additional 34-hour reset each weekend. You might be able to get creative in how you define your pastoral duties and compensation, or claim that your First Amendment rights should protect you from the rules that otherwise apply, but those rules exist for a reason: you need some down time. I would think that as a pastor, you have a duty to your flock to be available when they're in crisis, and that could place you in conflict with your driving responsibilities.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Linehaul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Auggie69's Comment
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Here is my dilemma, I am an ordained minister, but I am sick of medial jobs that I cannot make a career out of. I have wanted to drive a truck for as long as I can remember, but have always been talked out of it. The problem lay in that I cannot be a pastor and a truck driver without being home daily. I cannot start out with a local route as most are OTR for the first year or so.

I need help on what to do. If I could get a job where I am off on the weekends that would work, but I doubt those are available to someone who has to go through a company to get his CDL.

Solves your problem. You get trained for free and a local job, home every night

https://careers.fedex.com/freight/jobs/POSTING-3-414068?lang=en-us&previousLocale=en-US

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Auggie69's Comment
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Here is my dilemma, I am an ordained minister, but I am sick of medial jobs that I cannot make a career out of. I have wanted to drive a truck for as long as I can remember, but have always been talked out of it. The problem lay in that I cannot be a pastor and a truck driver without being home daily. I cannot start out with a local route as most are OTR for the first year or so.

I need help on what to do. If I could get a job where I am off on the weekends that would work, but I doubt those are available to someone who has to go through a company to get his CDL.

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Solves your problem. You get trained for free and a local job, home every night

https://careers.fedex.com/freight/jobs/POSTING-3-414068?lang=en-us&previousLocale=en-US

Home every night

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Bruce K.'s Comment
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I'm thinking from your information that you are a Minister, but unpaid and needing to make a living. Am I correct? Jesus told his followers to "give free because you have been given free" But there is reason to believe that many of his disciples still had to work to survive. I don't want to get into a Theological discussion here (Peterbilt's were not invented at that time). But can you find a way to combine your Ministry with truck driving? There is a WAY.

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Errol V.'s Comment
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Christopher points out he is a pastor. In that case he needs to lead a church in worship nearly every Sunday morning. On top of that if issues come up in his congregation he needs to be able to tend to his "flock". Thus the need to be home, especially on Sundays.

Pac Pearl's suggestion about LTL is worth considering. That career path often starts out working on the cross dock (no pun there!!) until he has enough experience there and the company has an opening for another driver. In that case they can get the training done. And LTL can easily be "home daily" or at least home weekends.

The talk about HOS hours is interesting. A pastor spends lots of time in prayer. So could we have a Talmudic discussion of logging prayer time as On Duty Not Driving? Just asking!

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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Here is my dilemma, I am an ordained minister, but I am sick of medial jobs that I cannot make a career out of. I have wanted to drive a truck for as long as I can remember, but have always been talked out of it. The problem lay in that I cannot be a pastor and a truck driver without being home daily. I cannot start out with a local route as most are OTR for the first year or so.

I need help on what to do. If I could get a job where I am off on the weekends that would work, but I doubt those are available to someone who has to go through a company to get his CDL.

Christopher;

In doing some searching regarding your initial post, I've come across this interesting CDL driving opportunity:

Samaritan's Purse

You could always see if they would sponsor you in getting your CDL.

Your 'on the web' link in your profile doesn't work, unfortunately; perhaps you can fix that, as well!

~ Anne ~

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Mountain Matt's Comment
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The talk about HOS hours is interesting. A pastor spends lots of time in prayer. So could we have a Talmudic discussion of logging prayer time as On Duty Not Driving? Just asking!

Errol, the Bible also says to "Pray continuously." That would definitely go over the HOS!

I do wonder if you could get a sabbatical approved to cover you while get your training done. Then it seems people do have some luck finding dedicated routes that get them home nightly or at least for weekends fairly soon, from what I've ready on here. Or the linehaul options discussed.

I'm sympathetic to your situation, as there are a lot of "careers" out there that require quite a bit of education but hardly pay a thing... the ministry among them!

Dedicated Route:

A driver or carrier who transports cargo between regular, prescribed routes. Normally it means a driver will be dedicated to working for one particular customer like Walmart or Home Depot and they will only haul freight for that customer. You'll often hear drivers say something like, "I'm on the Walmart dedicated account."

Linehaul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Errol V.'s Comment
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Mountain Matt quotes:

Errol, the Bible also says to "Pray continuously." That would definitely go over the HOS!

In that case the OP pastor won't be driving. Continuous prayer would be considered On Duty Not Driving. On Duty can continue beyond the 14 hour limit without any penalty. The catch is you must still wait 10 hours between the end of Duty and when you can Drive again.

Moving from the ecclesiastical to the secular, I believe the Pastor can shepherd his flock as long as he has some dependable deacons. And he gets a Home Daily driving job.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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Mountain Matt quotes:

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Errol, the Bible also says to "Pray continuously." That would definitely go over the HOS!

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In that case the OP pastor won't be driving. Continuous prayer would be considered On Duty Not Driving. On Duty can continue beyond the 14 hour limit without any penalty. The catch is you must still wait 10 hours between the end of Duty and when you can Drive again.

Moving from the ecclesiastical to the secular, I believe the Pastor can shepherd his flock as long as he has some dependable deacons. And he gets a Home Daily driving job.

Totally agree, Erroll !!

That link I provided would've been perfect had he lived in NC; they actually DO have a 9 week training program..gonna have to add that to the cache we have here, as we get it updated. Wouldn't be for 'everyone,' ie: the secular community..but still, interesting to know of!

I think the Pastor/Minister gave up on this endeavour. . . so did the Rev; Jared.

We tried, guys!

~ Anne ~

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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