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Anne A. (and sometimes To's Comment
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Anne,

A walking floor is an open top trailer with aluminum slats instead of a solid floor. It is operated off of a PTO from the cab and hydraulic fluid. When engaged the slats next to each other move in the opposite directions like one of those exercise machines mimicking skiing. It slowly moves the bulk product out the rear door of the trailer. I operated one with a company moving wood mulch and they are known for leaks in the hydraulic system because of the pressure involved. Hope that helps.

Wow, Navy!!! Thanks for sharing~! I bet that was an amazing experience, eh???? ;) Where do the leaks originate; on the 'sliders?'

Anne and Tom, thanks for your interest. The trailers we have are manufactured by Peerless (KNL).

Here is a link:

Walking floor

We haul wood chips, wood grindings, compost, occasionally topsoil and mulch.

G'Town, this is totally fascinating! I understand the 'workings' of a PTO due to pulling tanks with Tom; however . . . 'he' has a question for you: If you try to run the 'floor' too fast (as one of his co workers did with the PTO on an asphalt tank) can you burn UP the PTO/hydraulics, or does it have a rev limiter or something of that nature? Back in 2015, Tom (we) had to meet that guy in Newark (OH) and pump off ALL the 6122 asphalt, and carry on, to the 90. (Final destination, haha!) Needless to say, we were on paper, and I had a CDLP.

Next question; is it similar (at all) to a 'slinger?' Tom pulled one 'way back' with his brother at Kokosing, as a favor; it was almost a V'shaped 'hull' trailer; with some sort of augers/rubber moving parts (unlike your S/S) pushing the product (a gravel mix) out the back. Not really sure if it was PTO operated, or electric, or . . . gear driven? Tom was pre CDL at the time, haha! Yeah, I know .. (shhh... 90's!)

The 'final' (for now) question: Is it really only an 8 to 12 minute process???? Y'all hiring? (Tom's words, haha!)

I'm still hoping you'll start a thread on this, as you can. We'll have to get Brett to add a 'tag' for PTO instead of just lumping into 'truck equipment.' The physics of this stuff amazes me; as did dollies and pintle hooks. Sadly, I'm a sponge . . .even for something I'll never need to know, haha!

Always in your gratitude,

~ Anne & Tom! ~

ps: Okay, Grand Finale . . . I'm hella jealous of your Pedigreed Bulldog Mack Attack Pinnacle, TEN speed! In my FAVORITE color, too!!!

Thanks, man. You rock!!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Delco Dave's Comment
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Is it really only an 8 to 12 minute process????

Yes, 70 yards of mulch off truck in 15 minutes tops. Company I supervised before starting my own had it delivered to our yard from a mulch plant in South Jersey. I had to meet the driver every Mon, Wed and Fri morning at 6:15 am. Pretty cool how that floor can shuffle all that weight off the truck.

G-Town's Comment
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Thanks for the the reply Anne and Tom.

PTO has two settings, high pressure for the walking floor and a low pressure setting for the lowboy (more on that later). The RPMs when the PTO is in are governed at about 900. The throttle is basically disabled while it’s on.

No idea whether this is similar to the slinger Tom ran.

Yes, it unloads in 10 minutes or so...depending on the material and moisture content.

I’ll try to get some decent pics this week.

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Anne,

A walking floor is an open top trailer with aluminum slats instead of a solid floor. It is operated off of a PTO from the cab and hydraulic fluid. When engaged the slats next to each other move in the opposite directions like one of those exercise machines mimicking skiing. It slowly moves the bulk product out the rear door of the trailer. I operated one with a company moving wood mulch and they are known for leaks in the hydraulic system because of the pressure involved. Hope that helps.

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Wow, Navy!!! Thanks for sharing~! I bet that was an amazing experience, eh???? ;) Where do the leaks originate; on the 'sliders?'

double-quotes-start.png

Anne and Tom, thanks for your interest. The trailers we have are manufactured by Peerless (KNL).

Here is a link:

Walking floor

We haul wood chips, wood grindings, compost, occasionally topsoil and mulch.

double-quotes-end.png

G'Town, this is totally fascinating! I understand the 'workings' of a PTO due to pulling tanks with Tom; however . . . 'he' has a question for you: If you try to run the 'floor' too fast (as one of his co workers did with the PTO on an asphalt tank) can you burn UP the PTO/hydraulics, or does it have a rev limiter or something of that nature? Back in 2015, Tom (we) had to meet that guy in Newark (OH) and pump off ALL the 6122 asphalt, and carry on, to the 90. (Final destination, haha!) Needless to say, we were on paper, and I had a CDLP.

Next question; is it similar (at all) to a 'slinger?' Tom pulled one 'way back' with his brother at Kokosing, as a favor; it was almost a V'shaped 'hull' trailer; with some sort of augers/rubber moving parts (unlike your S/S) pushing the product (a gravel mix) out the back. Not really sure if it was PTO operated, or electric, or . . . gear driven? Tom was pre CDL at the time, haha! Yeah, I know .. (shhh... 90's!)

The 'final' (for now) question: Is it really only an 8 to 12 minute process???? Y'all hiring? (Tom's words, haha!)

I'm still hoping you'll start a thread on this, as you can. We'll have to get Brett to add a 'tag' for PTO instead of just lumping into 'truck equipment.' The physics of this stuff amazes me; as did dollies and pintle hooks. Sadly, I'm a sponge . . .even for something I'll never need to know, haha!

Always in your gratitude,

~ Anne & Tom! ~

ps: Okay, Grand Finale . . . I'm hella jealous of your Pedigreed Bulldog Mack Attack Pinnacle, TEN speed! In my FAVORITE color, too!!!

Thanks, man. You rock!!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
G-Town's Comment
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Thank you OS. Learning new tricks every day...

Exciting news G-Town!

I'm glad to see you having a few more toys to play in the dirt with. smile.gif

There's nothing like having a good sandbox in the neighborhood.

Navypoppop's Comment
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Anne,

I had leaks from the hydraulic hoses under the trailer and some were just drips and others were leakers that had to be addressed. Nothing like seeing a puddle of red fluid on the ground after an unload. Didn't make the customer too happy either.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
G-Town's Comment
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Fortunately this (below) has not happened to me...

Anne,

I had leaks from the hydraulic hoses under the trailer and some were just drips and others were leakers that had to be addressed. Nothing like seeing a puddle of red fluid on the ground after an unload. Didn't make the customer too happy either.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
George B.'s Comment
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I have afriend w about a years experience looking to run doubles for PFG out of Richmond. I believe he has 8 months experience to be exact. Thoughts? G-town?

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

G-Town's Comment
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Hey George...

I think 8 mos. is enough experience to handle doubles. PFG will (should) train him on setting up and hopefully several supervised drives until he gets the feel for the length and the additional pivot points.

I suggest you share this thread with him. Banks and Bobcat will likely chime in.

Encourage him to join.

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I have afriend w about a years experience looking to run doubles for PFG out of Richmond. I believe he has 8 months experience to be exact. Thoughts? G-town?

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

George B.'s Comment
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Trying to get him to come aboard. I did just find out he ditched on Prime after only 8 mos. Went thru their training etc. His words "Not worried about owing them, its been 2 weeks and havent heard anything!" Oh boy! Hes going to be in for a surprise or two. good-luck.gif

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

G-Town's Comment
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Wow... why did he do that?

Trying to get him to come aboard. I did just find out he ditched on Prime after only 8 mos. Went thru their training etc. His words "Not worried about owing them, its been 2 weeks and havent heard anything!" Oh boy! Hes going to be in for a surprise or two. good-luck.gif

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

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