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Fred M's Comment
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Another question to anyone willing to chime in. If I have the option, should I start out with a company that has manual trucks or automatic. I feel like I should cut my teeth with a manual. What say you, anyone?

BK's Comment
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Another question to anyone willing to chime in. If I have the option, should I start out with a company that has manual trucks or automatic. I feel like I should cut my teeth with a manual. What say you, anyone?

Go with automated tranny. Much easier and safer. This, to me, is a no brainer. I wouldn’t go back to manual after having an automated.

G-Town's Comment
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Although I do agree it’s overall easier to learn on an autoshift... however there is another way of looking at it.

Learning on a manual now, or later? Having the auto restriction in your license or not? I’d learn on a manual, no question. Learn on school time, not “making money” time.

Where I am currently working we have a mix of 10 speeds and autoshift trucks (it’s not an “automatic” guys and gals). I trained on a manual as I was learning how-to run doubles. Although at first I was a little rusty, within a couple of days all of the muscle memory came back and the “feel” of the gears returned without any loss of proficiency.

Had I not learned on a manual out of the gate (so to speak), it’s likely I would not have been a qualified candidate for the job I’m currently doing.

As far as being safer? That I do not completely agree with, especially in wintery weather. It’s debatable.

Many companies do not allow a manual override on their autos. This IMO makes it a bit more precarious keeping things under control during inclement weather. This has especially true in hilly terrain.

There is no right or wrong answer here. It all depends on what you want and how much more time and effort do you want to expend.

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Another question to anyone willing to chime in. If I have the option, should I start out with a company that has manual trucks or automatic. I feel like I should cut my teeth with a manual. What say you, anyone?

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Go with automated tranny. Much easier and safer. This, to me, is a no brainer. I wouldn’t go back to manual after having an automated.

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

Fred M's Comment
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Although I do agree it’s overall easier to learn on an autoshift... however there is another way of looking at it.

Learning on a manual now, or later? Having the auto restriction in your license or not? I’d learn on a manual, no question. Learn on school time, not “making money” time.

Where I am currently working we have a mix of 10 speeds and autoshift trucks (it’s not an “automatic” guys and gals). I trained on a manual as I was learning how-to run doubles. Although at first I was a little rusty, within a couple of days all of the muscle memory came back and the “feel” of the gears returned without any loss of proficiency.

Had I not learned on a manual out of the gate (so to speak), it’s likely I would not have been a qualified candidate for the job I’m currently doing.

As far as being safer? That I do not completely agree with, especially in wintery weather. It’s debatable.

Many companies do not allow a manual override on their autos. This IMO makes it a bit more precarious keeping things under control during inclement weather. This has especially true in hilly terrain.

There is no right or wrong answer here. It all depends on what you want and how much more time and effort do you want to expend.

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Another question to anyone willing to chime in. If I have the option, should I start out with a company that has manual trucks or automatic. I feel like I should cut my teeth with a manual. What say you, anyone?

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Go with automated tranny. Much easier and safer. This, to me, is a no brainer. I wouldn’t go back to manual after having an automated.

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Hi, G-Town! I learned on a manual at school, though I wouldn't consider myself anywhere near an expert in driving a manual. My concern is that if I start on an automatic then I will lose what little I know on manual, if that makes sense. I would also like that extra bit of control if/when I have to go on hilly terrain, like you said. Thank you for your insight.

Bruce, thank you for your insight as well, I really appreciate it.

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

Coger R.'s Comment
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In your new life, it's useful to learn how to form new friends. Start by exploring your new city and meeting people. In the end, don't forget about the people you grew up with and the people who will miss you. At the same time, keep an open mind and heart for the new souls you'll meet as you move on.

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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And my opinion is different. I say learn on an auto.... Then later after you can safely turn, go through lights and observe everything etc... All you are learning is shifting. Taking a test then you will be much calmer. In MO u only get 5 points maximum for grinding the gears do it is an auto pass at that point.

Also... If you school and train on a manual now, then drive auto for 3 years... would you be able to operate the manual after 3 years? If you do a road test for a company you want.... Would you be able to shift or look like an idiot and fumble in front of you lr potential employer and desired company. I would rather have recent shifting experience before an interview/job change

Fred M's Comment
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And my opinion is different. I say learn on an auto.... Then later after you can safely turn, go through lights and observe everything etc... All you are learning is shifting. Taking a test then you will be much calmer. In MO u only get 5 points maximum for grinding the gears do it is an auto pass at that point.

Also... If you school and train on a manual now, then drive auto for 3 years... would you be able to operate the manual after 3 years? If you do a road test for a company you want.... Would you be able to shift or look like an idiot and fumble in front of you lr potential employer and desired company. I would rather have recent shifting experience before an interview/job change

Hi Kearsey! I seen you in the Driver Lineup forum! Anyways, I learned on a manual. What you said about then driving auto for 3 years is what I'm thinking about. If I do that, I'm afraid I'll limit myself for future jobs by not being proficient with manual, even tho I learned on manual and don't have an automatic restriction.

Fred M's Comment
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In your new life, it's useful to learn how to form new friends. Start by exploring your new city and meeting people. In the end, don't forget about the people you grew up with and the people who will miss you. At the same time, keep an open mind and heart for the new souls you'll meet as you move on.

Definitely all important things to consider and do. Thank you, Coger!

Fred M's Comment
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For all those interested, here is an update and the job search. Prime kind of ghosted me, the recruiter contacted me on a Friday, told me she would call back the following Monday. Never got a call. I did send her a message to touch base today, see where it goes. Western Express assigned me a recruiter but I haven't heard from him, via email or phone. I applied to a company called KKW Trucking. They contacted me today. They said it will be dry van , 99% drop and hook , in either the Western 11, the state of California or Southern California, Nevada and Arizona, mainly Phoenix, the decision they say is up to me. So that's where it's at right now.

Dry Van:

A trailer or truck that that requires no special attention, such as refrigeration, that hauls regular palletted, boxed, or floor-loaded freight. The most common type of trailer in trucking.

Drop And Hook:

Drop and hook means the driver will drop one trailer and hook to another one.

In order to speed up the pickup and delivery process a driver may be instructed to drop their empty trailer and hook to one that is already loaded, or drop their loaded trailer and hook to one that is already empty. That way the driver will not have to wait for a trailer to be loaded or unloaded.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Anne A. (and sometimes To's Comment
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For all those interested, here is an update and the job search. Prime kind of ghosted me, the recruiter contacted me on a Friday, told me she would call back the following Monday. Never got a call. I did send her a message to touch base today, see where it goes. Western Express assigned me a recruiter but I haven't heard from him, via email or phone. I applied to a company called KKW Trucking. They contacted me today. They said it will be dry van , 99% drop and hook , in either the Western 11, the state of California or Southern California, Nevada and Arizona, mainly Phoenix, the decision they say is up to me. So that's where it's at right now.

Have you looked into Witte Bros.? Raider Express? Pride Transport? All out your way, all train. I looked up KKW on SaferWeb. Hmmmm... well, just hmm.

Stevo Reno (on here!) Started out with CRST, and worked 2 plus years, and now drives for New Legends, out your way.

Here's his posts: Stevo Reno

Best of luck, either way! Did not Millis, nor CRST, reach out to you, via: Apply For Paid CDL Training?

Oh yeah; just don't lose the 'endorsement' (or get the restriction, should I say) re; manual, on your CDL. Doesn't matter which you drive!

~ Anne ~

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dry Van:

A trailer or truck that that requires no special attention, such as refrigeration, that hauls regular palletted, boxed, or floor-loaded freight. The most common type of trailer in trucking.

Drop And Hook:

Drop and hook means the driver will drop one trailer and hook to another one.

In order to speed up the pickup and delivery process a driver may be instructed to drop their empty trailer and hook to one that is already loaded, or drop their loaded trailer and hook to one that is already empty. That way the driver will not have to wait for a trailer to be loaded or unloaded.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

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