NH Won’t Even Let Me Test For My Permit?!?!

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Moot Account 's Comment
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Hey guys, brand new here looking for help figuring this out.

I’ve been preparing and studying to get fly CDL. I had my permit exam appointment today and one of the questions on the application was this:

“Have you been disqualified from operating any motor vehicle within the past two years?”

I didn’t know how to answer because last year I had a suspension as a result not having insurance on a registered vehicle in the state of Florida. I honestly had no idea that there was a law prohibiting that. I figured as long as I’m not driving it, I’m not breaking any laws. Wrong…

As soon as I found out my license was suspended because of that I fixed the situation and insured my vehicle. All this being said previous to today’s situation I’ve called over 15 different training schools, and mentioned it to all of them just to be safe and asked if that would raise any issues and all of them said no if it wasn’t related to any moving violations you’ll be fine.

Upon bringing it up to the clerk she called her supervisor and their answer was that I couldn’t even TEST for my permit because of the suspension… so I’m very confused. I told them the circumstances surrounding the suspension and the fact that every school has responded the same. Didn’t matter.

Does anyone have any insight on this? I searched the violations that would “disqualify” someone from driving and that isn’t on the list. Everything on the list is all related to hazardous driving. So I’m at a loss of words here I have no idea if I’m going to have to wait another year and a half before being able to even go for this or if I can fight it.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
G-Town's Comment
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You said you fixed the problem by insuring your vehicle. What else did you do? Is there a process in NH for reinstating a suspended license?

Only guessing, it might still be suspended awaiting completion of some other process. I suggest calling NH DOT for further clarification.

Good luck.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

BK's Comment
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First of all, I think you can find a way to get this straightened out. No fun dealing with the government and can be extremely frustrating. Keep making those phone calls until you get someone with a brain to help you. (That might take a number of years, but don’t give up. Lol)

Second, how did you not know you needed insurance? That is motor vehicle 101. If you weren’t driving it you needed to inform your DMV and find out how to avoid the liability insurance requirement that I believe is nation wide. Well, live and learn.

Anyway, I’m confident you will solve this problem and move on to greater problems.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Travis's Comment
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I had a suspension in/from California on my California license due to medications causing seizures back in around 2013. Meds were changed and I didn't think anything of it. Apparently CA is a "Doctor is mandated to report seizures" type state.

Fast forward to 2014 and I'd moved back to NC and found out only when I went to change my CA license to NC. Tried to resolve over the phone and it seemed a bit of a hassle. I ended up contacting an attorney which then had me go to a general practitioner and a neurologist and both gave me a clean bill of health to include testing for epilepsy. They forwarded that CA DMV and did whatever else they did and got it resolved in maybe 2 months. Most of that 2 months was waiting for a neuro appointment so yours could be quicker.

Not sure what timeframe or budget you're looking at to resolve it but I went with an attorney to handle the legwork.

I actually had to dig up the documents as well as get a new "all clear" from a GP, above and beyond my med card, for a couple of prospective employers. Regardless of how you resolve it keep copies of any paperwork in case it's requested.

First of all, I think you can find a way to get this straightened out. No fun dealing with the government and can be extremely frustrating. Keep making those phone calls until you get someone with a brain to help you. (That might take a number of years, but don’t give up. Lol)

Second, how did you not know you needed insurance? That is motor vehicle 101. If you weren’t driving it you needed to inform your DMV and find out how to avoid the liability insurance requirement that I believe is nation wide. Well, live and learn.

Anyway, I’m confident you will solve this problem and move on to greater problems.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Moot Account 's Comment
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You said you fixed the problem by insuring your vehicle. What else did you do? Is there a process in NH for reinstating a suspended license?

Only guessing, it might still be suspended awaiting completion of some other process. I suggest calling NH DOT for further clarification.

Good luck.

As soon as I learned that my license was suspended I reinsured my car and took the proper docs to the FL DMV and reinstated my license. I don't have any current suspensions on my vehicle. But since it was within the past two years, they won't allow me to test up until this point. Thanks for your reply.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Moot Account 's Comment
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First of all, I think you can find a way to get this straightened out. No fun dealing with the government and can be extremely frustrating. Keep making those phone calls until you get someone with a brain to help you. (That might take a number of years, but don’t give up. Lol)

Second, how did you not know you needed insurance? That is motor vehicle 101. If you weren’t driving it you needed to inform your DMV and find out how to avoid the liability insurance requirement that I believe is nation wide. Well, live and learn.

Anyway, I’m confident you will solve this problem and move on to greater problems.

Tell me about it! How do you think I felt when I found this out lol. In NH you can have a registered vehicle without insurance if its off the road I believe, and being that Florida is well.... Florida I assumed the same there but that's the last time I assume anything.

But yes, I spent the whole day Friday calling the DMV speaking to supervisors and called every department in the the Department of Safety and ended up talking to a Staff Sergeant that opened up the law books with me on the phone. Nothing in the verbiage elaborates on whether suspensions related or not related to moving violations make a difference and from my perspective it seems like a grey area when it comes to this type of suspension.

In conclusion, I was given the Director if the NH DMVs address and will be petitioning him to help me resolve this situation by potentially waiving this requirement. Hopefully he's feeling helpful. Ive also been looking into surrounding states laws and I think I can make it happen faster in MA. So Im between those two decisions at the moment.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Moot Account 's Comment
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Im considering this as well. Right now Im figuring out of it will just be easier to change my residency to MA and go through a different state. MA asks if youre license is suspended etc. AT THIS TIME. And that answer is no so I don't think there will be any problems. Before I go transferring everything Im doing research and visiting DMVs to have questions answered. If it isn't the case then I might go this route as well. It just doesn't make sense to me that this type of suspension would disqualify me. That would mean that someone who's late $1 dollar on child support and gets their license suspended wouldn't qualify to apply for their CDL either and that's just insane.

All in all I do believe there is a way around this and Ill be past it soon God willing. I appreciate everyones responses.

I had a suspension in/from California on my California license due to medications causing seizures back in around 2013. Meds were changed and I didn't think anything of it. Apparently CA is a "Doctor is mandated to report seizures" type state.

Fast forward to 2014 and I'd moved back to NC and found out only when I went to change my CA license to NC. Tried to resolve over the phone and it seemed a bit of a hassle. I ended up contacting an attorney which then had me go to a general practitioner and a neurologist and both gave me a clean bill of health to include testing for epilepsy. They forwarded that CA DMV and did whatever else they did and got it resolved in maybe 2 months. Most of that 2 months was waiting for a neuro appointment so yours could be quicker.

Not sure what timeframe or budget you're looking at to resolve it but I went with an attorney to handle the legwork.

I actually had to dig up the documents as well as get a new "all clear" from a GP, above and beyond my med card, for a couple of prospective employers. Regardless of how you resolve it keep copies of any paperwork in case it's requested.

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First of all, I think you can find a way to get this straightened out. No fun dealing with the government and can be extremely frustrating. Keep making those phone calls until you get someone with a brain to help you. (That might take a number of years, but don’t give up. Lol)

Second, how did you not know you needed insurance? That is motor vehicle 101. If you weren’t driving it you needed to inform your DMV and find out how to avoid the liability insurance requirement that I believe is nation wide. Well, live and learn.

Anyway, I’m confident you will solve this problem and move on to greater problems.

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CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Travis's Comment
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Assuming you have people you can trust with the mail and an MA address have a bank statement and cell phone bill sent there and call the county voter registration there to mail a registration. Use those as proof of address and swap to MA license and test. You don't need to actually fill out the voter registration, just use the addressed envelope for proof of address.

Im considering this as well. Right now Im figuring out of it will just be easier to change my residency to MA and go through a different state. MA asks if youre license is suspended etc. AT THIS TIME. And that answer is no so I don't think there will be any problems. Before I go transferring everything Im doing research and visiting DMVs to have questions answered. If it isn't the case then I might go this route as well. It just doesn't make sense to me that this type of suspension would disqualify me. That would mean that someone who's late $1 dollar on child support and gets their license suspended wouldn't qualify to apply for their CDL either and that's just insane.

All in all I do believe there is a way around this and Ill be past it soon God willing. I appreciate everyones responses.

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I had a suspension in/from California on my California license due to medications causing seizures back in around 2013. Meds were changed and I didn't think anything of it. Apparently CA is a "Doctor is mandated to report seizures" type state.

Fast forward to 2014 and I'd moved back to NC and found out only when I went to change my CA license to NC. Tried to resolve over the phone and it seemed a bit of a hassle. I ended up contacting an attorney which then had me go to a general practitioner and a neurologist and both gave me a clean bill of health to include testing for epilepsy. They forwarded that CA DMV and did whatever else they did and got it resolved in maybe 2 months. Most of that 2 months was waiting for a neuro appointment so yours could be quicker.

Not sure what timeframe or budget you're looking at to resolve it but I went with an attorney to handle the legwork.

I actually had to dig up the documents as well as get a new "all clear" from a GP, above and beyond my med card, for a couple of prospective employers. Regardless of how you resolve it keep copies of any paperwork in case it's requested.

double-quotes-start.png

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First of all, I think you can find a way to get this straightened out. No fun dealing with the government and can be extremely frustrating. Keep making those phone calls until you get someone with a brain to help you. (That might take a number of years, but don’t give up. Lol)

Second, how did you not know you needed insurance? That is motor vehicle 101. If you weren’t driving it you needed to inform your DMV and find out how to avoid the liability insurance requirement that I believe is nation wide. Well, live and learn.

Anyway, I’m confident you will solve this problem and move on to greater problems.

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CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Banks's Comment
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Switching states may be a way to get your CDL (not sure and I'll just assume you did the DD), but it won't help you get a job.

Every app I've ever seen asks you to list all suspensions. A suspension that's a year old will be a problem. They will look into every state you've held a license in using you ss#.

That would mean that someone who's late $1 dollar on child support and gets their license suspended wouldn't qualify to apply for their CDL either and that's just insane.

No, it's not. The job requires you to have a valid license. People aren't going to notify their employers that their license is suspended and it's impossible for them to keep track of that in real time. They use your history to determine how responsible you are in keeping your license valid.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Moot Account 's Comment
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***SITUATION UPDATE***

So I ruffled enough feathers in NH and finally last week they called me back and said that I could in fact test, as long as I can provide proof that the suspension was not related to a moving violation!!!

I ordered an official copy of my driving record and guess what…. The suspension isn’t even on my record.

I’m not going to question it, if the government issues doc states it isn’t there than it’s not there!

My best guess is that Florida suspends your license as to make you reinsure the vehicle but doesn’t stick it on your record. Either way… I test tomorrow morning! Thanks everyone who commented and offered their insight.

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