Involuntary Commitment Medical Record, Over 9 Years Ago. Effects On TWIC Card.

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Bobby D.'s Comment
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I dealt with involuntary commitment over 9 years ago. For mental health reasons, I did not consent to this, but it was needed for me as it was a bad time in my life. Now this is on my medical record, such things as owning a Gun I cant do. I want to apply for a Twic card (Transportation Worker Identification Credential). For a future Job. On the website: https://www.tsa.gov/disqualifying-offenses-factors it says "or if he/she has been involuntarily committed to an inpatient facility for mental health or psychiatric reasons.". Now this happened 9 years ago, and its not something that will ever happen again. (its regarding self harm not eating, and drug use, non-violent).

My dilemma now is should I apply for a TWIC card and see if I get denied? OR Should I try to get this medical record expunged, afterward apply for TWIC card. I'm not sure if I need a lawyer for this, is it best if I do get one? Which option seems reasonable. By chance can they not deny me as this was over 9 years ago? And I did go through treatment, and counseling. No such thing has happened to me sense then. As well I am not taking any med's relating to this incident.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Old School's Comment
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Do you already have a CDL? There are a lot of CDL class A drivers who don't have a TWIC card. Do you really need one?

I don't believe you can get medical records expunged. I also think you'll be denied a TWIC.

To be honest, I wouldn't worry over this too much. There are a ton of driving jobs in which you'll never need a TWIC card.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

James H.'s Comment
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I want to apply for a Twic card (Transportation Worker Identification Credential). For a future Job.

Do you have a pending job offer that is contingent on you getting at TWIC Card? If not, I wouldn't worry about it. As Old School notes, many, in fact probably most, driving jobs won't involve port facilities or military bases or other places you'd need the card. The statement you quoted seems pretty definitive, but maybe a letter from a psychiatrist saying that you are under their care and that the condition that resulted in your commitment is no longer present, and in their medical opinion there is nothing that should preclude you from having a TWIC. However, the doctor would be exposing himself or herself to huge liability by writing such a letter, so don't be surprised if it's hard to come by.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Bobby D.'s Comment
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Thanks for the replies! Yes this is involving a pending job offer, getting a TWIC card is my best option. I do not have my CDL yet, no. I am currently in the process of getting it. My thinking is, they only deny if they think you are a threat to safety? This was a one time thing, I have no other such record. My options I guess are applying for the TWIC card, seeing if they approve or deny. If denied I can get a lawyer, and go through the process of appeals. Doing some research, people with felonies have gotten TWIC cards, so I don't think its impossible. I'd hope my chances are higher. Sense this was something that was 9 years ago, and not a repeat occurrence it gives me some hope!

I also read on the website: "Conviction for one of the following felonies is disqualifying if the applicant was convicted, pled guilty (including ‘no contest’), found not competent to stand trial, or found not guilty by reason of insanity within seven years of the date of the application; OR if the applicant was released from incarceration after conviction within five years of the date of the application."

Yes I understand this is for criminal felonies, but what sticks out to me is the "within seven years" and "within five years".

I guess I wont know unless I start the process, really appreciate the help! If anyone has ever dealt with something similar, please let me know how you handled it.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

PackRat's Comment
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What is the need to get this one particular job that requires the TWIC , plus you don't even have a CDL at this point? Sounds like putting the cart before the horse to me.

As written above, there are tons of driving jobs that will never require it.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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Many companies require a TWIC card to better negotiate their freight rates with customers. Prime "requires" a TWIC and a passport as well as hazmat..... But honestly I know many who don't have any of them.

It could be a case by case with you at the company. However if you couldn't get approved for a firearm ... I would imagine the same would be true for TWIC. It allows you on shipping ports and military bases unescorted.

Good luck and keep us posted.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Turtle's Comment
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If you are hung up on this particular job requiring a TWIC , then I'd suggest to go ahead and apply for the card and see what happens. No harm in trying, and at least you'll have a definitive answer instead of opinions.

However if you couldn't get approved for a firearm ... I would imagine the same would be true for TWIC.

Any felony will prevent you from possessing a firearm, but not all felonies prevent you from having a TWIC card.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Turtle's Comment
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Oops, hit submit by mistake. I was going to agree that if a mental diagnosis prevents you from owning a firearm, it probably also prevents you from getting a TWIC card. But that's only a guess.

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Bobby D.'s Comment
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Yes, I've applied today. I did say "yes" to being held at a inpatient facility. I think I have a good shot, sense it was a 1 time thing, I was on drugs at that point of my life, I'm not taking any meds and I finished all treatment. If denied, I've talked to some lawyers who can help me through the appeals. More than likely I'll be asked to take a psych evaluation. If everything turns out good, I don't see why I wont get approved? Even for my gun rights, I can get them back, just haven't gone through the process. If I cant get it, its not the end of the world, like many said already, many jobs that don't require it! I'll be sure to keep ya'll updated, not sure how long it'll take lady said up to 2 months. Thanks for all the support!

Robert B. (The Dragon) ye's Comment
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I think every base has been covered but I wanted to add a little additional info regarding military bases. Many are more changing their policy regarding TWIC and no longer accept it. Some require a questionnaire filled out in advance and proper background check before even picking the load up and others will do a quick check upon arrival. Tinker AFB in Oklahoma does the latter and several Naval facilities (sub bases) in the northwest require the info before you ever pick up the load. Aberdeen proving grounds does an on site background check which takes about 15 minutes and then issues a temporary pass good for 6 months, then the check is performed again.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

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