Sleep Berth Split Rule

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Robert T.'s Comment
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I've split my 10 hours break in a 3/ 7 hours periods, but the second period (the 7 hours one) ended after midnight. Now I wanted to start a new 2/8 hours SSB break at the same day, but my ELD isn't allowing me a 2 hours period, because they are saying that since my last break was of 7 hours I must take a 3 hours break. Is that correct, because in my point of view I'm starting a new 10 hours break.

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Old School's Comment
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Welcome to our forum Robert T!

The ELD is correct. When doing splits back to back like that, any two consecutive breaks must total a minimum of ten.

in my point of view I'm starting a new 10 hours break.

Your point of view is irrelevant to your ELD. It sees you doing back to back splits because that's what you are doing. If you were starting a new 10 hour break you would take a ten hour break. It's not just your ELD copping an attitude. That's the way the rule is written.

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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And when you do a 10 hour break, it must be the completion of rhe split. Therefore if you took the 7 hour break then decided to do a 10, you need to do at least 3 hours in the sleeper of that 10 hour break. As crazy as it sounds, if you get a hotel and do not do at least 3 hours of the 10 hour break in sleeper then you are violating

Now if you did the 7 sleeper...then did a 3 hour break, the next break can then be can 8 sleeper. Because of the 3 hours, you had a minimum of 2 hours off...then can do 8 sleeper to make it a full split.

I did a video that may help Sleeper Split Explained

Ryan B.'s Comment
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I've split my 10 hours break in a 3/ 7 hours periods, but the second period (the 7 hours one) ended after midnight. Now I wanted to start a new 2/8 hours SSB break at the same day, but my ELD isn't allowing me a 2 hours period, because they are saying that since my last break was of 7 hours I must take a 3 hours break. Is that correct, because in my point of view I'm starting a new 10 hours break.

I haven't read the other responses yet, but I encountered the same issue recently. What I am believing is needed is a reset of your clock in order to make use of the split sleeper rule again. The issue here is that you are still on the same 14-hour clock. You can only have 1 split per 14-hour clock.

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Ryan B.'s Comment
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I've split my 10 hours break in a 3/ 7 hours periods, but the second period (the 7 hours one) ended after midnight. Now I wanted to start a new 2/8 hours SSB break at the same day, but my ELD isn't allowing me a 2 hours period, because they are saying that since my last break was of 7 hours I must take a 3 hours break. Is that correct, because in my point of view I'm starting a new 10 hours break.

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I haven't read the other responses yet, but I encountered the same issue recently. What I am believing is needed is a reset of your clock in order to make use of the split sleeper rule again. The issue here is that you are still on the same 14-hour clock. You can only have 1 split per 14-hour clock.

The part that I didn't realize is that back to back split breaks must equal 10. I didn't realize that this is the case with more than 2 consecutive splits. Unless there is a situation where you have to do consecutive splits, like making a delivery on time, I think it's best just to get 10-hour break in for a shift reset.

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NaeNaeInNC's Comment
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Whenever I have to do a split, I ALWAYS make sure the next opportunity is a full 10. I know some that drive split SB all the time, but that's not for me. I use it primarily to save my bacon.

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I've split my 10 hours break in a 3/ 7 hours periods, but the second period (the 7 hours one) ended after midnight. Now I wanted to start a new 2/8 hours SSB break at the same day, but my ELD isn't allowing me a 2 hours period, because they are saying that since my last break was of 7 hours I must take a 3 hours break. Is that correct, because in my point of view I'm starting a new 10 hours break.

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I haven't read the other responses yet, but I encountered the same issue recently. What I am believing is needed is a reset of your clock in order to make use of the split sleeper rule again. The issue here is that you are still on the same 14-hour clock. You can only have 1 split per 14-hour clock.

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The part that I didn't realize is that back to back split breaks must equal 10. I didn't realize that this is the case with more than 2 consecutive splits. Unless there is a situation where you have to do consecutive splits, like making a delivery on time, I think it's best just to get 10-hour break in for a shift reset.

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Operating While Intoxicated

Davy A.'s Comment
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I use it frequently, usually just the first part of it to pause my 14. I then will do a full 10 to reset.

Sometimes I intentionally withhold from using it, for instance if at a shipper and the loads not ready on time, if I'm low on either clock but could make it a few hours, I'll have my dm adust the delivery appointment as it's justified now, and get paid to go sleep. I'll just burn down the rest of my 14 hour waiting and then am justified in saying that my HOS was up due to shipper delay. It's also justified because had I used SSB, it would have pushed my shut down time out too far.

As an added bonus, I'll usually still make the original delivery appointment but am now a day early so have the potential of getting paid to sleep at the reciever and or picking up more range of loads. I will run it by my DM and let him know I can make it though. It gives him options and I get a fatter paycheck.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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