Question On "Non" DOT Hair Test.

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Jaybird's Comment
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So I originally applied with Swift Transportation. I got through all the onboarding things, passed all background got my orientation start date.

After reading and looking at alot of the forums and mainly Kearsey saying things about Prime I decided to go with Prime Inc. Really looking forward to all of this, got a start with Prime now. Want to go with them. They asked for my current long form and medical card, which I have and are valid, I currently am a CDL B holder driving Public transport.

Swift told me to go take a DOT physical and the pdf they sent shows a box unmarked that says "DOT Urine" and a Marked box that says "DOT hair". So KY understanding is it's a DOT physical, and a non DOT hair test that I have to submit too, and that's totally fine.

Current company I'm with says to not take my DOT physical, and keep my current DOT medical card that I got through them, until I leave them as my employer, I submitted a 2 weeks. Swift has not gotten back to me, im trying to tell the gal that my current employer said to wait for my physical, haven't heard anything. Not going to leave my current employer on bad terms. I didn't go to the physical and now I'm wondering if I made the right call. I don't want a refusal, either way I want to drive with Prime. Am I in a position to be stressed about a potential refusal? I'm still trying to call Swift and I had a start with Swift scheduled for after my start with prime, I wanted to make sure Prime is really a place to be. I don't know what to do and this woman at swift won't answer her phone, or email me back.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

PackRat's Comment
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Pick a company: Swift or Prime. Once you do, follow their directions. They have too many applicants to spend time with a prospect that is on the fence.

Banks's Comment
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I've heard of "no showing" a drug test being called a refusal. Just take the physical. Your current employer will not know about it and you're making bad decisions shooting yourself in the foot here. Things in this industry move slow until they start moving and then it's warp speed. You either get on board or get left behind.

I agree with Packrat. Commit and move forward.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Jaybird's Comment
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OK. I was supposed to take the physical today and I didn't. I'm going to go first thing in the morning and hope they let me, online the order is good through the end of the month it says although it was scheduled for today. I'll take it, and hopefully just satisfy the request. I don't want a refusal at all, and then I'll just go with my gut and go with Prime. I'll let you know how this plays out these next 2 weeks.

The Pelican's Comment
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DOT Certified Drug Screener/Instructor here:

10000% go do whatever tests they tell you to do. Unless if they call you and tell you they've cancelled the tests, go do them. Even if you don't plan on even working for them, go do the drug test.

I've had quite a few truck drivers come in and say "I'm not even going to work for this company but I don't want a refusal."

OK. I was supposed to take the physical today and I didn't. I'm going to go first thing in the morning and hope they let me, online the order is good through the end of the month it says although it was scheduled for today. I'll take it, and hopefully just satisfy the request. I don't want a refusal at all, and then I'll just go with my gut and go with Prime. I'll let you know how this plays out these next 2 weeks.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Ryan B.'s Comment
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OK. I was supposed to take the physical today and I didn't. I'm going to go first thing in the morning and hope they let me, online the order is good through the end of the month it says although it was scheduled for today. I'll take it, and hopefully just satisfy the request. I don't want a refusal at all, and then I'll just go with my gut and go with Prime. I'll let you know how this plays out these next 2 weeks.

Why are you doing anything with Swift, if you have decided that you want to drive for Prime? You are setting yourself up to have something on your DAC that you really don't want. Once you complete the physical and DOT drug test for a company, that can show up as attending orientation on your DAC. I went through this when I first started out a little over a year ago by changing my mind after having gone to a Concentra for physical and DOT drug test for a company. I had another company ask me what happened with attending orientation at this company and leaving. I was like, "What?" Turns out, it was reported to HireRight and appeared on my DAC report. Don't play around with this. Don't make the same mistake that I made. If you want to go to Prime, tell Swift that you have had multiple companies wanting to hire you and that you have had to make a choice. The choice you have made is Prime. I promise you that Swift sees this daily. You will still be on good terms with Swift, should you want to take advantage of an opportunity there down the road.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

James P.'s Comment
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I was in the same situation as you about a month and a half ago. Went with swift because you don't have to be out with a mentor as long and they don't require you to do teams while mentoring.

NaeNaeInNC's Comment
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Neither point is necessarily a GOOD thing

Went with swift because you don't have to be out with a mentor as long and they don't require you to do teams while mentoring.

Jaybird's Comment
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OK. Thanks for all of the help. I'm going in right when the place opens to try and do the physical. The appointment was set up for yesterday, CerteDrive says it's "order" is good until the end of the month so I'm hoping they let me do it. Major fingers crossed. Thank you for the responses.

James P.'s Comment
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Neither point is necessarily a GOOD thing

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Went with swift because you don't have to be out with a mentor as long and they don't require you to do teams while mentoring.

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You may be right about the length of mentoring. But I fail to see teams as anything but dangerous, especially for an inexperienced driver. And many very experienced drivers agree with me

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