New Driver… Any Advice!

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Danitza O.'s Comment
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Hi everyone hope everything is going well. I recently got my CDL and am looking for potential companies to go for. I do have my tankers and am waiting for my fingerprints to clear for my hazmat which should still take a couple more months.

Im located out of Phoenix, AZ. Sadly I had a few companies I was trying to go for and they couldnt get me because the trucking school I went to isnt partnered with them and they cannot take me as a driver trainee.

Unfortunately from what ive been told the only main company that will take me is Swift which I’ve heard the stories about and honestly wouldnt mind going with them to get the experience of OTR and get out.

Another company that could possibly get me is Pride Transport. I’ve tried to do research on Pride but havent really been able to find much. If anyone on here has experience with Pride it would be greatly appreciated. Do they have a place in Arizona I would be able to go for home time? Also do they have a good home time policy?

I would like to take my fiancee with me does anyone know how long after going solo I would be able to take a rider? And all in all is it a good company? The info they sent me about the trainee program sounds pretty good (alot better than swift) only thing is I have to sign a 6 month contract with them after training.

I know since im starting out the pay and all wont be as great since im trying to gain experience. I just want to make sure im going into a good company and hopefully stay with them until I can gain enough experience to get back to Phoenix, AZ and do local. Thanks for any info anyone has! :)

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

James H.'s Comment
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Did your school provide you with a list of companies where they place their graduates? Do you have your doubles/triples endorsement? I would think a city as big as Phoenix has a lot of LTL activity, and some of them do hire inexperienced drivers.

Regarding your question, I would apply everywhere. Get answers, in writing, about the things that are most important to you: salary, home time, training period, whatever you value. I would worry less about a company's overall reputation. Because first, the internet is full of bitter people eager to trash anything and everything. People like to poke fun at Swift and some of it can be amusing, but this is a very competitive industry, and Swift wouldn't be as big as they are if they weren't doing something right. And secondly, you could end up with a bad trainer at a company with an overall great program, or vice versa. And a great trainer for you might be one I'd struggle with, just because of teaching/learning styles, personality fit, etc.

Bottom line, get after it and focus on the things you control - your commitment, teachability, and effort, and you should do just fine.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Welcome, Danitza!

Im located out of Phoenix, AZ. Sadly I had a few companies I was trying to go for and they couldnt get me because the trucking school I went to isnt partnered with them and they cannot take me as a driver trainee.

This is a topic we discuss regularly here: Paid CDL Training Programs vs private schooling.

I want to be clear about what you're saying here, so we can continue to warn people about the unexpected consequences of going to a private school. You're saying that several major carriers you applied to would not hire you because you didn't go to their school, or one of their approved schools?

I would really appreciate it if we could get more details about this. It would be a huge help to others.

I just want to make sure im going into a good company and hopefully stay with them until I can gain enough experience to get back to Phoenix, AZ and do local.

Any major carrier will be a great place to get experience so you can eventually land a local job. Just be aware that a slow economy could extend how long it takes to qualify for local jobs, because companies will have more candidates to choose from.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

RealDiehl's Comment
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I can't provide specific answers to many of your questions. I can offer some general advice though. The advice might sound a little harsh and it may not be exactly what you want to hear. However, it is something you should try to understand.

Do not base your decision on reviews you have read on the internet. Two of our most successful Moderators here began their careers with trucking companies that you can find all sorts of negative reviews about (Western Express and Swift). It is not the companies that fail the driver. It is the driver that fails to adapt and learn to be successful. Negative reviews often come from bad drivers who would rather blame their company for their incompetence rather than looking in the mirror and seeing who is actually to blame. The bigger the company; the more drivers; the more potential for negative reviews.

Signing a contract is not a bad thing. It is recommended you stay with your first company for at least a year anyway. Other companies aren't going to be leaping to hire you if you can't even last a year with your prior one. The first year is all about gaining experience and learning to be a safe, productive driver. Obviously you want to earn as much money as you can. Who doesn't? But the focus should be on learning. I personally did not make much money my first year. I went from a little over $40,000 in year one to over $70,000 in year three, and in the second half of my current year (year 5) I made $53,000. Next year I will earn over $100,000. My numbers are poor compared to some of our other drivers here on the forum who made a whole lot more in their first year than I did.

So don't worry too much about a company's reputation online based on reviews. Focus more on doing the best you can do.

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

RealDiehl's Comment
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Just want clarify that when I referred to my "current year" I was referring to 2022. And "next year" is actually this year, 2023. My brain is a little bit stuck in the past🤣

Danitza O.'s Comment
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Thank you to everyone who responded! Much needed advice. I did contact Swift today and started the process with them especially because they can get me home more often unlike some other companies I was gonna go for that couldn't really get me close to Phoenix and i would have to find my way each home time.

Swift definitely seems like the best option right now. As for the comment about the school I went to and their partnership companies. Yes, I tried getting with Western express, cfi, dot foods, prime, etc they would not get me as a new driver(student/trainee driver) because the school i went to isnt in partnership with them. Basically after I get the experience with a company and would like to change afterwards it wouldnt be a problem for anyone since I would have the otr experience.

From all the researching I did before schooling and now after I never heard of anyone having that issue but it may be that the school is a private institution. Something for people who are looking into schools to make sure of before starting and hopefully they do not have to worry about it. But all in all, I'm excited to start getting on the road and learning and experiencing new things. Thanks all! :)

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

David W.'s Comment
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Biggest advice I give to new people at Pepsi is that no one ever regrets checking the oil, the kingpin lock, and putting up a load bar. And the same boss telling you to hurry up, hurry up, hurry up, will ask you why you didn't take your time when you hit something.

Pacific Pearl's Comment
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Congratulations, new driver. A few thoughts:

1. Knight/Swift is the largest carrier in the US. There's a lot of opportunities there besides just OTR. Do a good job with the, "wax on, wax off" phase of your career and that may open doors to your next step. Linehaul? They've got that. Dedicated? Sure. Regional? Yep. Local? No problem. After you've established yourself with your FM it's o.k. to ask about what comes next. That could lead to your next job - no application, no wait and see - pass go, collect $200 and start your next job with the same company.

As others have already pointed out - the economy isn't running at full throttle at the moment so employers are getting picky. A friend recently applied for a private fleet job in Portland. The job required 2 years of driving experience, hazmat and tanker endorsements. According to Indeed there were thirty applicants for that job!

2. Trucking is a, "Big Tent" - there's a lot of jobs that require a CDL. Use your OTR time to figure out what you like and what you don't about your first job. Keep a list. Ask other drivers at the terminal and truck stops about what they're doing and how they like it. When the time comes look for a job that accentuates the positive and delineate the negative.

3. Your first year will be tough. Trucking isn't a job - it's a lifestyle. Once you get used to life on the road and get your truck set up the way you like it (onboard wi-fi changed my life) it gets a lot easier.

4. You mentioned going, "local". That's generally P/D (Pickup and Delivery). It involves a lift gate and a hand truck. Lots of opportunities to hurt you knees, your back, your hips or other parts. For the joy of going home every night without an injury and better pay options check out linehaul , dedicated and private fleet.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Linehaul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Banks's Comment
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Biggest advice I give to new people at Pepsi is that no one ever regrets checking the oil, the kingpin lock, and putting up a load bar. And the same boss telling you to hurry up, hurry up, hurry up, will ask you why you didn't take your time when you hit something.

For the few months I was at Pepsi, that's definitely something I noticed. Nobody ever did a pretrip and they looked at me like I was crazy for doing one.

Zen Joker 's Comment
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That’s scary Banks! 😳

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Biggest advice I give to new people at Pepsi is that no one ever regrets checking the oil, the kingpin lock, and putting up a load bar. And the same boss telling you to hurry up, hurry up, hurry up, will ask you why you didn't take your time when you hit something.

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For the few months I was at Pepsi, that's definitely something I noticed. Nobody ever did a pretrip and they looked at me like I was crazy for doing one.

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