Failed Schneider Hair Follicle Test

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Cameron L.'s Comment
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I recently got my CDL and applied to my first trucking job, to my surprise I failed Schneider's hair follicle test even thought I paid for my own hair screening before just to make sure and came back negative. anyway I was sent home and am now applying to any trucking job I can get my hands on but most of them are now denying my application due to the report being filled on my DriverIQ website report. Is there anyway to get rid of this or fight this? will it be removed from my report with time? what is my best option or company that I should apply to or is my driving career over before I even started? I am extremely frustrated because Schneider didnt even let me explain my case or appeal it and sent me home immediately as if there's never false positives for hair tests ( which national average shows about 15% are false positive)

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
PackRat's Comment
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How would you fight it? Did you use prohibited substances and get caught through their testing procedures?

Cameron L.'s Comment
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How would you fight it? Did you use prohibited substances and get caught through their testing procedures?

I paid for my own test which shows negative results to their positive results. I also emailed Schneider's "expert question team" on the website stating I want to appeal my termination and that they had a false positive drug test and opened my own appeal through Driver IQ/cisive

BK's Comment
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How would you fight it? Did you use prohibited substances and get caught through their testing procedures?

Like PackRat, I would be curious to know more. Were you informed of what substance/substances came up positive?

What have you used and how recently?

Cameron L.'s Comment
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How would you fight it? Did you use prohibited substances and get caught through their testing procedures?

No i have been clean for many months as im taking my trucking career seriously, I even paid for my own hair screen before going to orientation to make sure and the results were negative. So i emailed Schneider telling them I wish to appeal my termination and to show them the hair test results I paid for out of pocket and that their test was a false positive. I also opened a case on driver IQ/cisive to appeal their report on my termination as its now affecting my ability to get hired at other trucking companys

ID Mtn Gal's Comment
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No i have been clean for many months as im taking my trucking career seriously, I even paid for my own hair screen before going to orientation to make sure and the results were negative.

What did you use and how many months is "many months of being clean" ? What you don't realize is that not all hair follicle testing is equal and your tests may have been one of the cheaper tests even though to you it might have seemed expensive. I don't know what tests Schneider uses. It may not be a false positive after all. We have had people pay for their own testing that showed negative and then popped up positive at orientation. The difference has always been what the private test was used and not being as good as the companies hair follicle test.

Laura

PJ's Comment
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I’m not very hopeful here on several points.

First fighting Schneider’s test and termination is a extremly long shot. They won’t and don’t care about any test other than the one they gave you.

As said all hair tests are not equal. The longer the test sample the further back it reaches. This may be as simple as your private test using a shorter sample size.

You’ve already admitted to using something you shouldn’t have. A few months isn’t going to cut it.

Your DAC report is kind of like a credit report. You can challenge it, but rarely have I seen an entry removed. They typically stay there for 3 years.

You have an uphill battle and honestly in today’s economy I have doubts you will find a driving job.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

PackRat's Comment
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Once your appeal is completed, you will need to look at SAP for a return to driving. Until that point you will have a brick wall in front of you for driving a CMV.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

CMV:

Commercial Motor Vehicle

A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

  • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
  • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
  • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
  • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
  • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards
Cameron L.'s Comment
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Once your appeal is completed, you will need to look at SAP for a return to driving. Until that point you will have a brick wall in front of you for driving a CMV.

This hair test was not reported to Clearing house as only urine tests are reported so i dont have to complete SAP and its not on my record. but its now on my DAC report and hindering my ability to get a job. so far it looks like the only options i have for hiring are the "second chance" mega carriers

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

CMV:

Commercial Motor Vehicle

A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

  • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
  • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
  • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
  • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
  • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Rob T.'s Comment
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Previously someone mentioned being hired by Pam after failing a hair test done at a different company.

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