SAP Friendly Companies For RTD Ready Driver?

Hello all, new to the forums and thought I'd come to you all for some advice.

Been with my current company for almost 5 years and after a squabble last year I was leaving to go to another company. Long story short I wound up leaving the pre employment test that setup myself without knowing the repercussions of said actions.

My bosses know what happened I was not terminated from my company just moved out of SS position as I had just taken a test for them and took one right after this incident happened. So after a long and expensive lesson on what happens when you leave even for a pre employment I'm not at the RTD stage of my SAP program.

I have 6 of the plant bosses, district manager and plant manager behind me trying to get me back in a truck due to my work ethic yet our cooperate safety guy is now refusing to send me for the RTD test because I was trying to leave the company.

I've reached out to a few companies who will take me at the RTD stage and I've put in applications but was curious if anyone had some more company suggestions of those who will work with me at the stage I'm at.

Thanks for your consideration,

Jacob

I've read this about 4 or 5 times and I don't fully understand what happened.

You went to a preemployment drug test for a new employer and you walked out.

Your current employer got the walk out results and moved you out of a safety sensitive position. Was that position a CDL position?

Now you're safety guy at your current job, that you're trying to leave, won't give you an RTD test.

Did I get that right?

If I did and you have companies willing to hire you at the stage, take the test and accept the job and stay there for a few years.

I don't think anybody here has needed to go through an RTD process.

For the folks stopping by to learn more about the process - you can simply not show up for a pre-employment drug screen without an issue. If you appear for the pre-employment drug screen once you check in THEY OWN YOU! If you leave for any reason it's the same as a failed test. If you get sent to Concentra and it takes them 4 hours to call you after you check in - you wait. If you provide a sample and the tech fills one tube (a DOT test requires 2 tubes) then dumps out the rest of your sample - you wait until you can give another sample, even as the same tech offers you a 2 oz Dixie cup full of water every 15 minutes before asking you if you're ready to give another sample. Walking out, beating the tech to death or forcing them to drink your sample will all count as a FAILURE. You will have to complete the SAP process at your own expense and even if you do your employment options won't be good.

§ 40.191 What is a refusal to take a DOT drug test, and what are the consequences?

(a) As an employee, you have refused to take a drug test if you:

(1) Fail to appear for any test (except a pre-employment test) within a reasonable time, as determined by the employer, consistent with applicable DOT agency regulations, after being directed to do so by the employer. This includes the failure of an employee (including an owner-operator) to appear for a test when called by a C/TPA (see § 40.61(a));

For the OP - it's simple, type, "SAP friendly CDL" into your favorite job board. You can narrow down the results by typing in your actual zip code. Good luck!

Indeed

SimplyHired

I've read this about 4 or 5 times and I don't fully understand what happened.

You went to a preemployment drug test for a new employer and you walked out.

Your current employer got the walk out results and moved you out of a safety sensitive position. Was that position a CDL position?

Now you're safety guy at your current job, that you're trying to leave, won't give you an RTD test.

Did I get that right?

If I did and you have companies willing to hire you at the stage, take the test and accept the job and stay there for a few years.

I don't think anybody here has needed to go through an RTD process.

That's right, I've got a few companies that are willing to work with me in the current state I'm in. Just didn't know if people had more suggestions of companies. I'm trying to see who has the best out there out of the few that will work with me!

For the folks stopping by to learn more about the process - you can simply not show up for a pre-employment drug screen without an issue. If you appear for the pre-employment drug screen once you check in THEY OWN YOU! If you leave for any reason it's the same as a failed test. If you get sent to Concentra and it takes them 4 hours to call you after you check in - you wait. If you provide a sample and the tech fills one tube (a DOT test requires 2 tubes) then dumps out the rest of your sample - you wait until you can give another sample, even as the same tech offers you a 2 oz Dixie cup full of water every 15 minutes before asking you if you're ready to give another sample. Walking out, beating the tech to death or forcing them to drink your sample will all count as a FAILURE. You will have to complete the SAP process at your own expense and even if you do your employment options won't be good.

§ 40.191 What is a refusal to take a DOT drug test, and what are the consequences?

(a) As an employee, you have refused to take a drug test if you:

(1) Fail to appear for any test (except a pre-employment test) within a reasonable time, as determined by the employer, consistent with applicable DOT agency regulations, after being directed to do so by the employer. This includes the failure of an employee (including an owner-operator) to appear for a test when called by a C/TPA (see § 40.61(a));

For the OP - it's simple, type, "SAP friendly CDL" into your favorite job board. You can narrow down the results by typing in your actual zip code. Good luck!

Indeed

SimplyHired

Yea I found that out the hard way! My current employer is the only CDL job I've ever had and have never had issues with my testing before. I'm the first CDL holder in my family and although ignorance isn't an excuse I'm just not that educated on the in depth workings of DOT and all the ins and outs. I learned a hard expensive lesson due to it though. I will get out of it though with a lesson learned in what not to do in the future!

Do any of the interested companies happen to be large companies? We frequently see posts regarding getting hired after completing an SAP but don't know of any specific companies that allow a driver to redeem themselves. The only places I've seen on indeed specifically say they're SAP friendly are 1099 "opportunities" which isn't ideal long term.

Do any of the interested companies happen to be large companies? We frequently see posts regarding getting hired after completing an SAP but don't know of any specific companies that allow a driver to redeem themselves. The only places I've seen on indeed specifically say they're SAP friendly are 1099 "opportunities" which isn't ideal long term.

So I got in contact with a recruiter with a company out of TX who stop taking SAP drivers back in November. She actually sent me a big list of companies that work with SAP drivers in the RTD state and some who require the violation to be closed.

Out of the list the 2 biggest I've seen so far *haven't researched all of them yet*

Roehl- With roughly 2000 trucks

Sweet Express- With roughly 500 trucks

I know those aren't huge numbers in comparison to some of the big names out there. Once I get through everything I plan on making a post geared toward the SAP and RTD process where people who were in my situation can see a light at the end of the tunnel.

I'm going to go OTR for about a year and get through the process of finalizing my follow up testing to close out my violation. Then goign to return local back with the company I'm with now and wait the 5 years so my Clearing house will be clean. Who knows I might like OTR and stay out longer. We'll see!

Go on Indeed and type in SAP drivers or something like that. I've done that before and had tons of things show up.

One mistake doesn't define who you are but please, for yourself and the motoring public, stay sober. But there are job out there.

As others have said, if you are ever sent in for a federal drug test, you HAVE to do it. There is no way out of it. Refusing to do it will put you back in the SAP program or worse.

I used to do drug testing. Heard a lot of stories and excuses. My response was usually "I sympathize with your situation. However, the FMCSA does not."

Do any of the interested companies happen to be large companies? We frequently see posts regarding getting hired after completing an SAP but don't know of any specific companies that allow a driver to redeem themselves. The only places I've seen on indeed specifically say they're SAP friendly are 1099 "opportunities" which isn't ideal long term.

So I got in contact with a recruiter with a company out of TX who stop taking SAP drivers back in November. She actually sent me a big list of companies that work with SAP drivers in the RTD state and some who require the violation to be closed.

Out of the list the 2 biggest I've seen so far *haven't researched all of them yet*

Roehl- With roughly 2000 trucks

Sweet Express- With roughly 500 trucks

I know those aren't huge numbers in comparison to some of the big names out there. Once I get through everything I plan on making a post geared toward the SAP and RTD process where people who were in my situation can see a light at the end of the tunnel.

I'm going to go OTR for about a year and get through the process of finalizing my follow up testing to close out my violation. Then goign to return local back with the company I'm with now and wait the 5 years so my Clearing house will be clean. Who knows I might like OTR and stay out longer. We'll see!

Roehl is a good company with a solid reputation.

Sweet Express is out of the Grand Rapids, MI area. I know some of their drivers personally. It can be a cliquish company. I will say it like this: It's really great for those for whom it's really great.

Go on Indeed and type in SAP drivers or something like that. I've done that before and had tons of things show up.

One mistake doesn't define who you are but please, for yourself and the motoring public, stay sober. But there are job out there.

As others have said, if you are ever sent in for a federal drug test, you HAVE to do it. There is no way out of it. Refusing to do it will put you back in the SAP program or worse.

I used to do drug testing. Heard a lot of stories and excuses. My response was usually "I sympathize with your situation. However, the FMCSA does not."

Oh yea I hear ya! I've been sober for a long time now, I'm a youth minister and teach my youngins about the hardships I faced when I was younger.

The facility didn't even communicate anything with me or I would've stayed there till Jesus came back!

Thanks for the encouraging words!