Splitting 2/8/2

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CM59's Comment
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Hey, been awhile. I’m trying to contact our compliance team to triple check, but want to run this by y’all.

Did a 2/8 yesterday. 2 in afternoon. Did 8 last night (before original 14 was up) to make consignee on time this morning. I would think that I shut down for a 10 now. This morning I had what was leftover from yesterday. Now I have what would be now be an 8/2. I recall seeing this online before but seems counterintuitive…

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Consignee:

The customer the freight is being delivered to. Also referred to as "the receiver". The shipper is the customer that is shipping the goods, the consignee is the customer receiving the goods.

CM59's Comment
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Ah figured it out. You can chain them together. That’s what it is. I’ve never had a great situation to use that but here I am.

Davy A.'s Comment
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You can, our eld(zonar)won't show your clocks accurately on the second split until after the final break is complete. It can be unnerving because you know you have hours but it will show you in violation. With ours, you really have to know your clocks.

Pianoman's Comment
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Yeah you can do “rolling splits” indefinitely. I and most drivers I know don’t do rolling splits very often because it’s exhausting and unnecessary most of the time. If you ever have a really hot load that you need to save every second on, strategically timed rolling splits can be an effective way to save some time by turning your 30 minute break into a 2 hour break and counting it as part of your required cumulative 10 mandatory hours off each day

Ryan B.'s Comment
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Hey, been awhile. I’m trying to contact our compliance team to triple check, but want to run this by y’all.

Did a 2/8 yesterday. 2 in afternoon. Did 8 last night (before original 14 was up) to make consignee on time this morning. I would think that I shut down for a 10 now. This morning I had what was leftover from yesterday. Now I have what would be now be an 8/2. I recall seeing this online before but seems counterintuitive…

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So, I do these splits all the time. It seems like you are cheating because you are getting time back before completing a 10-hour break, but you are getting on-duty time that's equivalent to 11/14 - the time used between the last two breaks, which in this case would be the 8-hour break and the 2nd 2-hour break. If you had taken a full 10, you would get a full 11/14.

You start your day with a full 11/14. You start driving and drive for 3 hours. Say you reach a shipper , so you are off-duty while being loaded. 2 hours pass, and you are loaded. You pause your clock with the split-sleeper provision. So, you have 8/11 hours available.

Your delivery is 9 hours away, and you have 18 hours to get there. Can't do a full 10 plus be on time, but you have that split in your back pocket. You drive 7 more hours, so you park with 1/3 available (1 hour of on-duty time consumed by pre-trip, fueling, arrival at shipper).

You start your sleeper portion of the split. 8 hours later, you have 4/7 available. You drive 2 hours to your delivery, then go off-duty while being unloaded. 2 hours later, you have 9/12 available.

At your next break, you want to go into sleeper to avoid causing a problem by not having a pair with the last 2-hour break.

I run days at a time on splits without a full 10-hour break. I don't take 30-minute breaks. I swallow up 30-minute breaks by pausing my clock with split breaks. 30-minute breaks eat up your clock. Split breaks preserve your clock. The caveat here: I run reefer , so I have a high percentage of loads where I am sitting in a dock door for 2+ hours.

Consignee:

The customer the freight is being delivered to. Also referred to as "the receiver". The shipper is the customer that is shipping the goods, the consignee is the customer receiving the goods.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Reefer:

A refrigerated trailer.

Sandman J's Comment
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I don't do full SSBs often, but whenever I do I use what I've learned here to do the calculations myself and compare that to what my ELD shows. Luckily it's matched, so far. The last time I did it, it was to make a middle of the night delivery, get some rest, then get to the next shipper before they closed for the weekend then make it home.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Trucker Kearsey 's Comment
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Hi. Here's a Video to explain. Basically subtract the drive time between the two breaks and that is the drive time you get back. I never really worry about the 14. If i take 2 different 2 hour breaks, it uses the most recent 2 hour break.

Split Sleeper Break

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