Quick Question About C. R. England

I've been offered a chance to go to CR England's Training Program in Dallas Texas. I've been reading on websites, this one and other, about them.

I know to take most comments with a grain of salt but, Something keeps coming up that I don't really understand and would like to hear some advice on this if anyone knows what it means please.

There is some talking about leasing the trucks. Does this mean to drive for them I have to basically buy the truck from them to do so?

I guess that's one I'll have to ask the recruiter next time I speak with him. But just thought I would ask here to see if anyone has an answer.

I've been excited about this offer and have been making plans to go, reading up on sites about driving truck, trying to get familiar with certain things. But I'm not ready to own a truck for christ's sake.! LOL

Hello Robert, welcome to the forum!

Does this mean to drive for them I have to basically buy the truck from them to do so?

Robert, Don't fall for this B.S.

I've been excited about this offer and have been making plans to go, reading up on sites about driving truck, trying to get familiar with certain things. But I'm not ready to own a truck for christ's sake.! LOL

You are exactly right about this. DO NOT LEASE A TRUCK! Robert, this has been the path to financial ruin for many a naive rookie that entered this field. Some have made a go at it, but many have lost everything, including their last little bit of hope by taking this bait. C.R. England pushes this real hard, but you absolutely do not have to do it that way. You stand your ground on this and they will take you on as a solo driver. If they insist they don't have any trucks available right now for solo company drivers, then you firmly let them know that you will wait till one comes available. It's all smoke and mirrors, they have trucks available.

Hey, if you want to learn about the industry take a look at our Truck Driver's Career Guide, and if you are interested in other companies that offer Company-Sponsored Training you can research them by following that link. You may also enjoy reading Brett's Book, it's a free on-line version that is fun to read and very informative about the truck driving job and lifestyle.

Indeed Old School is right. You certainly do not want to lease or buy a truck. They'll push the idea on you like crazy....make it sound like such an obvious path to riches that only an idiot would pass it up. Believe me, all of the major companies that offer leasing opportunities have their sales pitch shining like a new diamond at this point.

Don't fall for it. Remain a company driver and like Old School said, stand your ground. For instance, you'll complete your training and you'll be ready to go solo. They'll tell you, "Well, we have about a dozen brand new lease trucks ready to go - never been driven. You can sign the lease and head out now. But we have no company trucks available. We might have to send you home and we'll call you when one becomes available."

Don't fall for it. Go home if they want to send you home. Whatever you do, don't lease a truck from anyone.

Thanks guys. I appreciate the tips there. I was thinking it was kid of weird to be

offered to lease a truck and not even have a CDL yet. There are so many negative articles online about

C.R. England and I haven't been able to find anything away from their website that is good. I really don't know

how to due diligence this. I don't know any truckers in my area to ask about it face to face.

I want to read something that is positive from someone whose actually driven for them, just to balance out what

I've already been to find but haven't found anything yet. How do you get to meet a truck driver in person to ask them about

a company like this if you've never been in this industry?

Robert, you pretty much have got to ignore all that trash talk on the internet, it's mostly done by people who didn't have what it takes to make it in the business. They are bitter and embarrassed at their failure and taking it out on the company. I work for one of the companies that has absolutely terrible reviews, in fact I have never found a positive one anywhere. So I can speak with some authority on this matter. I will tell you that I love this job, I get treated like a king, and I have always had more work than I can physically get done. If you are productive, they will keep you moving, if you prove to be unreliable, they will find someone to replace you. That is how you get all those bogus reviews on the web.

We always recommend if you want to talk to a real driver that works for a certain company, then you go to a truck stop and visit with them while they are fueling up their truck. It's okay to just walk up to them and ask "hey, I was considering going to work for those guys, how do you like working for them?" Drivers have these kinds of conversations all the time with each other, so don't think it awkward, they will be glad to tell you how it's going for them.

Thanks Old School. And thanks for those links. I've been reading up on them quite abit. This is a fantastic resource website btw.

What I've done is submitted a resume to this website in bulk to see if I get any other hits. Seems like it might be a better option rather than just jumping at the first opportunity that came my way.

Just a small bit of background on myself. I lived abroad for 10 years teaching English in Thailand. I have a wife and son over there that I was

hoping to bring to the states by now. I've been home for 2 years now and still can't find a good enough income to provide for them here. I looked into truck driving last year and kept getting pushed away because I had no recent driving history. Now C.R. England is showing an interest in me and I just got excited about it.

I'm thinking I should take a step back for a moment and make this decision once I have some more information on the industry,

You guys rock and thanks for answering my silly questions so fast!:)

My friends brother went with England's CDL program. He described it as being a slave to them until the cost of their CDL program was paid off. Think he said 2-4 years. He could have been jerking my chain. But definitely talk with drivers from that company whenever you get a chance

My friends brother went with England's CDL program. He described it as being a slave to them until the cost of their CDL program was paid off. Think he said 2-4 years. He could have been jerking my chain. But definitely talk with drivers from that company whenever you get a chance

My friends brother went with England's CDL program. He described it as being a slave to them until the cost of their CDL program was paid off. Think he said 2-4 years. He could have been jerking my chain. But definitely talk with drivers from that company whenever you get a chance

That's not pulling your chain. That's flat out lying. My brother, BTW who is still my co-driver, went through CRE for schooling and I trained him through both phases of his training. He started August 8th 2009 and do you know when he finished paying them back for school? August 2nd 2010. That's right. $3999 paid back in less than a year.

You see I was a trainer with CRE also ran the ports in California hualing containers back east. I was there from 2009 til 2012 and enjoyed it. I even had two trucks leased on to them. I paid for two vehicles and bought a place with a private dock on the Arkansas river and paid everything in cash.

Really should not believe everything someone says about a company.

My friends brother went with England's CDL program. He described it as being a slave to them until the cost of their CDL program was paid off. Think he said 2-4 years. He could have been jerking my chain. But definitely talk with drivers from that company whenever you get a chance

My friends brother went with England's CDL program. He described it as being a slave to them until the cost of their CDL program was paid off. Think he said 2-4 years. He could have been jerking my chain. But definitely talk with drivers from that company whenever you get a chance

That's not pulling your chain. That's flat out lying. My brother, BTW who is still my co-driver, went through CRE for schooling and I trained him through both phases of his training. He started August 8th 2009 and do you know when he finished paying them back for school? August 2nd 2010. That's right. $3999 paid back in less than a year.

You see I was a trainer with CRE also ran the ports in California hualing containers back east. I was there from 2009 til 2012 and enjoyed it. I even had two trucks leased on to them. I paid for two vehicles and bought a place with a private dock on the Arkansas river and paid everything in cash.

Really should not believe everything someone says about a company.

So if you decide to not lease a truck will they (any company that tries to force this) try to basically force you out?