Worked For Roehl, Questions Concerning Their Contract (75k+ Miles)

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Pick/Grin's Comment
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Locally, if I make $12.50 and work 60 hours, I'll make $1000.


Actually, working 60 hours at $12.50 would yield $750. Unless you're getting time and a half for hours over 40, in which case you'd get $875. Or do live somewhere where you get double pay for overtime or something?

Oh wow, yeah it comes out to $875, I'm just bad at math haha Some jobs give double time, though it's rare. A position with the county or city would be more likely to offer it, considering my father works a gov't job and is offered double time and a half several times a month, though he's got quite some tenure with a cushy county job.

@Brett, I already acknowledge all of that. I'm not sour about it, but obviously the best thing to do before sending a business money is figuring out if that amount can be reduced. I was told by a seasoned driver that these sorts of contracts are in fact not legal, so I figure I'd scour the internet and find out whether or not he was correct in that statement. A little bit of research beforehand helps.

And yeah, I make a ton of impulsive decisions, but don't go thinking I'm not gonna go through with the consequences. OTR was never the long term goal either way. I'm not in a worse position, I'm actually living quite comfortably with what I've saved up.


Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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I'm not sour about it, but obviously the best thing to do before sending a business money is figuring out if that amount can be reduced.

Is it obvious?

Because for one, as a business owner myself, if I provide you a service you've agreed to and providing that service costs me money then I expect to get paid for it, wouldn't you?

For two, when you signed up to haul freight for the company they agreed to pay you for the work you did, correct? Did you receive that pay? Did the company try finding a loophole to get out of it?

G-Town's Comment
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Pick / Grin wrote:

I was told by a seasoned driver that these sorts of contracts are in fact not legal, so I figure I'd scour the internet and find out whether or not he was correct in that statement.

Your driver friend should stick to what he knows, unless he or she is also a practicing attorney, they are not qualified to provide this sort of advice.

Whatever you get from the internet is just as questionable and subject to opinions that may or may not be based on contract law. If you really want to know your legal rights, you should speak to an attorney and have the contract reviewed. Anything short of that is risky.

The Persian Conversion's Comment
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Ok I went back and reread this thread, and I think this is really where you lost me:

I'm making very little money, and my free time is still limited to the cab (still AT work regardless of duty status).

I know we've had this conversation before on here, but I still for the life of me cannot understand why anyone thinks they need to be paid for their off duty time!!! It's really ridiculous if you think about it... You could be sleeping, eating, watching TV, playing games, showering, going for a leisurely stroll, whatever you want... but just because you're not doing those things in your own residence, that entitles you to compensation for your time somehow? I just don't see it. If you took a nap in an office building, the company wouldn't say, "Well that's fair, he's not sleeping at home so technically he's here working. Pay the man!"

Anyway, not trying to change the subject, but don't you think maybe you cane into this whole thing feeling a little entitled, and when things didn't work out the way you expected, you just bailed on it? Let's be real now.

Also, I guess I'm a little confused. You said above that you were "making very little money," and you had also said:

...when you work for three weeks at a time and make out with such a dismal amount of money, you start to consider other types of CMV work.

So how does that jive with this statement then:

I'm not in a worse position, I'm actually living quite comfortably with what I've saved up.

Was this money you had saved up from something before trucking? Because if you did manage to save up enough money through trucking to live "quite comfortably" while you're unemployed, it would seem you weren't doing so bad after all... right?


Commercial Motor Vehicle

A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

  • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
  • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
  • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
  • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
  • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards


Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Errol V.'s Comment
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Persian Conversion, Pick/Grin simply has not realized he's an adult yet. He has saved up some money, now he's "living quite comfortably", at least until his savings are spent. Then it's back to finding a job that pays a bit more than minimum wage.

P/G realizes there are consequences to his impetuous living, but thst seems OK with him instead of deciding to make more responsible decisions. Through this whole thread his attitude has just been "oh, well!"

Charlie Mac's Comment
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Roehl was & remains my 1st choice academy. I would happily trudge through 75k miles to be off the hook for tuition. I'm almost 33 years old & have zero gaps in employment the last 10 years. I pray I'm accepted when the time comes.

One day it will "click" for you & you'll realize what opportunity means. I have the dough to pay for private scooling out of pocket...but I also have a family that could use that money while I'm gaining invaluable experience.

Sounds to me like you're the reason these contracts are necessary. Not trying to be harsh on you...but if so many green-horns didn't jump ship these contracts wouldn't be required at all. Now you have the opportunity to do what you please...I hope your prepared to pay the piper.

Nate_K's Comment
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You will be happy with Roehl.

Been out on my own for a few weeks and so far I am very happy. Getting good miles, got a great truck, getting good loads, and my fleet manager is very receptive.

I ask to be routed away from the snow and they do it. I ask them to contact a customer and see if we can get in early and they do it.

99% of Roehl drivers I have spoken with love it here. Even the few who were leaving said they would come back in a second if the new job didn't work out.

The only gripe I have is they wouldn't take out a cabinet for me. Yup, pretty minor.

Fleet Manager:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
BryanS's Comment
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32 cpm at 2000 miles comes out to $640, 2500 = $800, 3000 = $960.

to the original poster, does the .32 cpm include any fuel bonus or raises you might expect in the first few months? The website if I recall advertises an 11/3 schedule, can you maintain that 2800 goal actually over two weeks with 3 at home? thanks,


Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

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