Lives Matter Movement

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Crawdaddy's Comment
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With all the black Lives matter, all lives matter movements. What can be done in the case of people block the interstate such as what has been going on in Memphis, Tn. Do trucks have a right to drive through that and get away? Are they stuck until the people clear? How does that affect HOS for the drivers? Does anyone have anything to contribute on this matter and how it will impact our ability to do our jobs now and in the future? Maybe anything as far as from the trucking companies perseceptive, owner operators, and the company drivers themselves?

Owner Operator:

An owner-operator is a driver who either owns or leases the truck they are driving. A self-employed driver.

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Daniel B.'s Comment
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I would think that you would probably get in trouble for running over people, as tempting as it may be. So I wouldn't chance it. You don't want to kill your CDL with a reckless driving charge, unlikely but then again the law usually doesn't make sense.

You can extend your 14 hour clock due to an unforseen circumstances but I don't have proof that this will work for this situation. Back when this law was written we didn't have morons walking on interstates burdening folks who have nothing to do with what their mad about so I'm not sure.

If it does happen though, immediately notify dispatch and write the time that you were delayed from beginning to end.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

JakeBreak's Comment
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I would also add to check your routing really carefully for the next week and if you see something that might turn into an issue like that let dispatch know and they might route you around it. For example if I was in Louisiana and I saw my routing took me right through were all the protests were happening I would call dispatch and tell them and see if I can route around it.

Crawdaddy's Comment
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I would think that you would probably get in trouble for running over people, as tempting as it may be. So I wouldn't chance it. You don't want to kill your CDL with a reckless driving charge, unlikely but then again the law usually doesn't make sense.

You can extend your 14 hour clock due to an unforseen circumstances but I don't have proof that this will work for this situation. Back when this law was written we didn't have morons walking on interstates burdening folks who have nothing to do with what their mad about so I'm not sure.

If it does happen though, immediately notify dispatch and write the time that you were delayed from beginning to end.

I ask this, because, I will be a trucker driver soon and would like to know what my options are in this case. I don't want to be in a situation like this, as a newbie, and not have an idea what to do. If a truck drivers life is in danger, such as the case here and they are hopping and climbing on the front of your truck. Trying to violently attack it would seem to me to be self defense in protecting company equipment as well as protect your shipper and customers freight.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

Crawdaddy's Comment
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I would also add to check your routing really carefully for the next week and if you see something that might turn into an issue like that let dispatch know and they might route you around it. For example if I was in Louisiana and I saw my routing took me right through were all the protests were happening I would call dispatch and tell them and see if I can route around it.

I understand if you have advanced notice. But say like now where trucks are traveling down the interstate say like you are traveling 55 and come to a stop in the middle of the interstate due to this issue.

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

C. S.'s Comment
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Are you asking if you can run people over without consequences? The answer is no, no you cannot.

If a truck drivers life is in danger, such as the case here and they are hopping and climbing on the front of your truck. Trying to violently attack it would seem to me to be self defense in protecting company equipment as well as protect your shipper and customers freight.

Killing people to protect equipment and freight is probably not a good decision. The freight and truck are insured and can be replaced.

I understand if you have advanced notice. But say like now where trucks are traveling down the interstate say like you are traveling 55 and come to a stop in the middle of the interstate due to this issue.

That's what the CB is for. I can virtually guarantee you'll have plenty of advance notice for something like this.

It likely won't matter anyway, you're going to spend much more time held up in Wyoming blizzards than dealing with protesters blocking a highway.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

Crawdaddy's Comment
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Are you asking if you can run people over without consequences? The answer is no, no you cannot.

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If a truck drivers life is in danger, such as the case here and they are hopping and climbing on the front of your truck. Trying to violently attack it would seem to me to be self defense in protecting company equipment as well as protect your shipper and customers freight.

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Killing people to protect equipment and freight is probably not a good decision. The freight and truck are insured and can be replaced.

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I understand if you have advanced notice. But say like now where trucks are traveling down the interstate say like you are traveling 55 and come to a stop in the middle of the interstate due to this issue.

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That's what the CB is for. I can virtually guarantee you'll have plenty of advance notice for something like this.

It likely won't matter anyway, you're going to spend much more time held up in Wyoming blizzards than dealing with protesters blocking a highway.

So you are saying that you have to put your life endanger and allow people to possibly kill you vs continuing to push your self out of the way and protect what is important. Should they be allowed to do what they are doing with no consequences either? I am not talking about running over people. Should I be a sitting duck? Would you let someone break into your home? To me these are serious questions.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

Daniel B.'s Comment
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Are you asking if you can run people over without consequences? The answer is no, no you cannot.

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If a truck drivers life is in danger, such as the case here and they are hopping and climbing on the front of your truck. Trying to violently attack it would seem to me to be self defense in protecting company equipment as well as protect your shipper and customers freight.

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Killing people to protect equipment and freight is probably not a good decision. The freight and truck are insured and can be replaced.

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I understand if you have advanced notice. But say like now where trucks are traveling down the interstate say like you are traveling 55 and come to a stop in the middle of the interstate due to this issue.

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That's what the CB is for. I can virtually guarantee you'll have plenty of advance notice for something like this.

It likely won't matter anyway, you're going to spend much more time held up in Wyoming blizzards than dealing with protesters blocking a highway.

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So you are saying that you have to put your life endanger and allow people to possibly kill you vs continuing to push your self out of the way and protect what is important. Should they be allowed to do what they are doing with no consequences either? I am not talking about running over people. Should I be a sitting duck? Would you let someone break into your home? To me these are serious questions.

If youre in danger and you have people beating on your window violently, jumping on your truck then do what you need to do to keep yourself safe.

I drive a gas tanker in Northern CA, if I was stopped in the front of the traffic and I had people trying to steal my vehicle I would run mobs over. The last thing I will allow is for 8,600 gallons of extemely flammable gas to be in the wrong hands and used as a weapon. Or, if I'm stopped and they start opening my valves and internals to cause product flow onto the ground. Being surrounded by cars, it will ignite and then we're all dead. So yes, I'm running people over if they try something like that. But if I'm peacefully stopped I'll just sit there obviously, being paid by the hour makes it easy money.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

Errol V.'s Comment
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Civil actions like this are rare. It ranks right down there as being as common as sudden bridge collapses. I live near Memphis, and TV was filled with video of the trucks stuck in traffic, waiting to get through. If you've ever been stuck in traffic for any reason, you do hear that HOS clock ticking away, if nothing else. Agree or disagree with the people blocking the roadway, your time is your money.

You have no choice, once you're caught in it, but to wait, (lock you doors) stay safe in all you do, and especially follow law enforcement directions.

As for blowing your drive time limits, you have a good explanation, but once the ordeal is over you still need to get off the road ASAP, even if that means spending the night in West Memphis.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Bill F.'s Comment
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For those of you that are too young you need to understand what happened to this man Reginald Denny. I saw it live so don't try to tell me what you think it was. Civil actions is a prettied up word for violent riots and the current generation of liberal leaders believe we need to make room for rioters to destroy and vent their "righteous" anger. Just let the insurance companies take the hit, that doesn't really cost anyone anything does it? The finest country in the world with the greatest opportunity for the most and it is still not enough for some. They are also trying hard to get onto the interstates to employ a form of economic warfare by blocking commerce. Don't worry about your freight worry about yourself.

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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