Security Clearances, TWIC Cards, & Hazmat/Tanker Endorsements

Topic 16362 | Page 1

Page 1 of 2 Next Page Go To Page:
Chris (the chick)'s Comment
member avatar

Currently, I'm in driving school. My plan, so far, is to flatbed once completed. Obviously, already thinking ahead here...

Hazmat/Tanker Endorsement: Makes more sense to just get the duo together then both separate ("X" endorsement.) I have no interest at this time to obtain nor to drive either, though I understand it may create more opportunities. I don't think I should be concerned with this now as a future flatbedder, so I'll be stingy with my money and say "Nah, it can wait."

TWIC Card: Not sure it will come in handy for flatbedder since it seems more tied in the intermodal department, but it makes more sense to have in possession. However, I'm aware there were massive flaws with the chips and all the cards needed replacing in 2015, rendering it pretty much more problematic than simplified for the card-holders. Assuming the flaws has been corrected and newly issued cards are fine, is it smart/worth shelling out for it now while still in school?

Secret Security Clearance: I don't believe I can pick up secret transport loads at this current time for... Well, not sharing so y'all have the plausible deniability here, haha! (No, no need to get paranoid; has to do with pets -- but if I didn't have pets accompanying, then zero issues here.) But, it'd be mad cool if I did have such clearance readied. ["Hell yeah, i get into places you can't even come near, na na! And nope, can't tell ya or I'd hafta kill ya!" kind of ego. LOL] Since right now I'm only planning on OTR for a year and unsure yet of when i resume grad school (whether I'd take regional or local jobs then, or what I'd do over breaks), would it be worth it to get it now, so it's out of the way as well? Also, money.

To be clear -- TWIC cards and Security Clearance are completely separate, right? I get not being able to use TWIC as Security Clearance, but can the Security Clearance be used when TWIC is called for?

Additionally as side note, Passports: Mine is still good into 2018, so I already have this to (perhaps?) create more opportunities, such as travel into Canada. Maybe even Alaska, too?! Oh my. Even if I weren't traveling across country borders, I believe I'd be correct to think a current passport has become a "must" these days, even if the government hasn't made it a law to carry one yet.

Anyway -- thoughts, comments, stuff.....??? For myself and those coming into the trucking industry as to what's worth it, what can (should/shouldn't?) wait, and whether it really does or doesn't help our opportunities with our job hunts and future loads.

Thank you in advance!!

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Intermodal:

Transporting freight using two or more transportation modes. An example would be freight that is moved by truck from the shipper's dock to the rail yard, then placed on a train to the next rail yard, and finally returned to a truck for delivery to the receiving customer.

In trucking when you hear someone refer to an intermodal job they're normally talking about hauling shipping containers to and from the shipyards and railyards.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
JakeBreak's Comment
member avatar

Even in flatbed hazmat and tanker are good endorsments to have. There are quite a few hazmat loads I've seen on flatbeds and tanker is required if you haul tanks over a certain gallon amount. As for the twic card I don't have one but again it is one that could come in handy because you can haul containers on a stepdeck I think. I know I've seen it especially around Chicago lol.

I know these aren't typical loads for a flatbed and depending on company policies they might not give them to a new driver but it is definitely something to think about.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Stepdeck:

A stepdeck , also referred to as "dropdeck", is a type of flatbed trailer that has one built in step to the deck to provide the capabilities of loading higher dimensional freight on the lower deck.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Chris (the chick)'s Comment
member avatar

My understanding is these things are obtained by the self, not through company. So whether to already have them before even being hired...? Hmm. The Hazmat/tanker, I know... Just don't think it's a priority to obtain for the one year I'm OTR'ing. I'd think TWIC would be more the priority here. If I was rich enough, it wouldn't matter -- just shell out for all of it. LOL

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Brett Aquila's Comment
member avatar

We always recommend that people get all of the endorsements. You really have no clue going into this what you're going to be doing even 6 - 12 months from now. Everyone has preconceived notions of what trucking will be like and what they'll be doing but that can change 180 degrees once you get out there and experience it. The endorsement tests are short, easy written exams and once you have the endorsements you have them for life, except Hazmat which has to be renewed every couple of years.

But right now is the time to get them, while you're in study and test mode. Once you start driving you're going to be so unbelievably busy and your home time will be so precious and valuable that the last thing you're going to want to do is start digging through more training materials and spending more time at the Motor Vehicle Department. Get it all out of the way now.

I'll be stingy with my money and say "Nah, it can wait."

You're basically saying you're going to save money by keeping $20 in your pocket now but limiting your long term career opportunities. That's shortsighted. Make your decisions pay off for the long term.

I also see you did a chunk of our High Road Training Program but you didn't do the flatbed sections which you're going to need if that's what you want to do:

Flatbed Cargo Securement

New York State Coil Endorsement

Study like crazy! Get it all out of the way now. I'm tellin ya, once you get out there and start driving you're going to face an awful lot of 18 hour days. The last thing on Earth you're going to have the time or energy to do is pull out more books and do more studying.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Rick S.'s Comment
member avatar

As Brett (and many others) advise - better to have and not need, than to need and not have. This works for endorsements too. Especially if your company has a bunch of trucks in an area with slow outbound freight - and you're the only one with the proper endorsements to grab a load that gets you back into the busy lanes.

Also - as Brett mentioned - you have no idea where you're going to be down the road. The more endorsements you have, the more opportunities you can create for yourself down the line.

The HazMat is the most costly (for background check, etc.) and difficult, as far as how much information is covered. Drill using the High Road Training Program section on HM and you shouldn't have any issues.

Tanker is pretty easy, and is good to have (along with HM) for portable tanks that can get strapped onto a flatbed.

TWIC card isn't just for ports - it's considered a pre-clearance for other government-type installations. Also gets you into the "crew express line" at airport TSA checkpoints (not that you'd use that much in a truck). I believe if you get your TWIC fairly recently before you apply for your HM, you can get your HM background discounted - since the same agency does the same BG for both. You can get a TWIC, without having a CDL , and really, for any reason - in fact, you don't need a reason at all to get one. Most PORTS require their own separate entry credentials, or you get a temp with you need to get on (which may or may not require an escort).

Current Passport is always good to have. I can serve in place of a birth certificate (for most trucking companies) and as a primary/secondary form of ID. I have both the book and the card - carry the card all the time. The card will get you across Canadian border, so you don't need to carry the book with you for US/Canada travel.

I've never actually seen a "Secret Security Clearance" as it relates to trucking. I've held one in the military, because I worked on electronics and crypto gear (actually, higher than Secret). Nor have I seen the mechanism where you just apply for one. If you company carries High Value/Security loads - they will obtain the necessary clearances for you. Usually this kind of stuff is not loaded on ROOKIES anyways, and a lot of companies that do these types of loads have a special division that handles them. Hauling Military Vehicles on an RGN or Drop Deck, usually doesn't require anything special.

Best of luck, keep us posted...

Rick

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Tractor Man's Comment
member avatar

I got all of my endorsements upfront. In my first 10 weeks Solo w/ Swift, I have hauled 4 Haz Mat loads already. My vote is get them all.

Rick S.'s Comment
member avatar

^^^^^ This...

Keep in mind, as we always tell people. HazMat is not always spent nuclear reactor fuel, high explosives, etc.

Many common household items (bleach, car batteries, etc.) in TRUCKLOAD QUANTITIES are HM loads.

Sometimes getting a load over another driver is as easy as: hmmm, 5 trucks in a 50 mile radius of an HM pickup - only 1 driver has HM endorsement (or tank, etc,).

Rick

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

C T.'s Comment
member avatar

Flatbed does use twic to get into ports which have more than containers btw. It basically opens up more loads for you. Also, get your endorsements now as they are cheaper before your hard copy cdl is printed.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Tractor Man's Comment
member avatar

^^^^^ This...

Keep in mind, as we always tell people. HazMat is not always spent nuclear reactor fuel, high explosives, etc.

Many common household items (bleach, car batteries, etc.) in TRUCKLOAD QUANTITIES are HM loads.

Sometimes getting a load over another driver is as easy as: hmmm, 5 trucks in a 50 mile radius of an HM pickup - only 1 driver has HM endorsement (or tank, etc,).

Rick

That is exactly right. My last HazMat load was 40,000 + lbs of Clorox laundry bleach. Swift pays a flat rate of $35.00 for HazMat loads. That is 7 cpm on a 500 mile run. I'll never get rich on it but it may be Resume' Candy in the future?

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
member avatar

I only have the tanker endorsement and never renewed my passport. My company keeps me running so I'm happy. Never felt the need to do it and costs differ from state to state. NJ is expensive.

The TWIC I use regularly both for shipping ports and deliveries to military installations. I have done a few runs to ft Knox and others. My company has a TWIC office on the terminal so getting one was easy.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Page 1 of 2 Next Page Go To Page:

New Reply:

New! Check out our help videos for a better understanding of our forum features

Bold
Italic
Underline
Quote
Photo
Link
Smiley
Links On TruckingTruth


example: TruckingTruth Homepage



example: https://www.truckingtruth.com
Submit
Cancel
Upload New Photo
Please enter a caption of one sentence or less:

Click on any of the buttons below to insert a link to that section of TruckingTruth:

Getting Started In Trucking High Road Training Program Company-Sponsored Training Programs Apply For Company-Sponsored Training Truck Driver's Career Guide Choosing A School Choosing A Company Truck Driving Schools Truck Driving Jobs Apply For Truck Driving Jobs DOT Physical Drug Testing Items To Pack Pre-Hire Letters CDL Practice Tests Trucking Company Reviews Brett's Book Leasing A Truck Pre-Trip Inspection Learn The Logbook Rules Sleep Apnea
Done
Done

0 characters so far - 5,500 maximum allowed.
Submit Preview

Preview:

Submit
Cancel

Why Join Trucking Truth?

We have an awesome set of tools that will help you understand the trucking industry and prepare for a great start to your trucking career. Not only that, but everything we offer here at TruckingTruth is 100% free - no strings attached! Sign up now and get instant access to our member's section:
High Road Training Program Logo
  • The High Road Training Program
  • The High Road Article Series
  • The Friendliest Trucker's Forum Ever!
  • Email Updates When New Articles Are Posted

Apply For Paid CDL Training Through TruckingTruth

Did you know you can fill out one quick form here on TruckingTruth and apply to several companies at once for paid CDL training? Seriously! The application only takes one minute. You will speak with recruiters today. There is no obligation whatsoever. Learn more and apply here:

Apply For Paid CDL Training