Interesting Thought On Speed Limiters

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Sambo's Comment
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I think the speed limiters are going to be passed and we will have them in our trucks. But what happens if they don't pass.? Ooida is saying that speed limiters will make things unsafe. They're saying that the difference in speed will cause things to be worse than they are now

If that is the case, and they win, what are the possibilities that since the law states that speed limiters are unsafe, that carriers who currently use them will be forced to remove them because of the new law?

OOIDA:

Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association

Who They Are

OOIDA is an international trade association representing the interests of independent owner-operators and professional drivers on all issues that affect truckers. The over 150,000 members of OOIDA are men and women in all 50 states and Canada who collectively own and/or operate more than 240,000 individual heavy-duty trucks and small truck fleets.

Their Mission

The mission of OOIDA is to serve owner-operators, small fleets and professional truckers; to work for a business climate where truckers are treated equally and fairly; to promote highway safety and responsibility among all highway users; and to promote a better business climate and efficiency for all truck operators.

Robert B. (The Dragon) ye's Comment
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Not gonna happen. The ATA dropped the whole idea once several reports came out showing that split speed limits were actually more dangerous and that the general motoring public is responsible for over 80% of the accidents involving big trucks. What was more telling was that they admitted that unsafe driving habits of 4 wheelers, speeding, distracted driving were to blame. Their next view is at speed limiters for all vehicles which will never happen.

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murderspolywog's Comment
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I don't think even if ooida wins the case that the law will say that speed limiters are unsafe. That would be the same as saying the auto brake system is unsafe. In some situations every peace of equipment is unsafe. My bet is the insurance company's will still mandate some company's use them. company's that want to have lower premium will use them. I don't if they are really doing do any good for fuel I find fuel economy comes from driving a engine in its power curve not how fast I am going unless I am out side of the power curve. The other think is if you drive an unlimited/ faster then 65mph truck your company needs to but better quality tires on it. Most g rated tires that I have found company's like to run because there cheaper and if your loosing lots of tires for some reason that makes sense. But most of them have a speed rating of 65 or slower.

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OOIDA:

Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association

Who They Are

OOIDA is an international trade association representing the interests of independent owner-operators and professional drivers on all issues that affect truckers. The over 150,000 members of OOIDA are men and women in all 50 states and Canada who collectively own and/or operate more than 240,000 individual heavy-duty trucks and small truck fleets.

Their Mission

The mission of OOIDA is to serve owner-operators, small fleets and professional truckers; to work for a business climate where truckers are treated equally and fairly; to promote highway safety and responsibility among all highway users; and to promote a better business climate and efficiency for all truck operators.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Rick S.'s Comment
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We're talking the difference between speed limiters as a COMPANY POLICY - versus speed limiters as a global FEDERAL REGULATION under 49 CFR 3XX (FMCSA Regs regarding Commercial Vehicles).

Aside from the difference in speed of trucks being unable to operate at the speed limit/flow of traffic - the REAL UNSAFE CONDITION arises out of a truck running up against the limiter not have any additional power available to avoid an accident.

Canada has mandatory speed limiter regs in Quebec & Ontario.

I don't see that as any larger of an issue than it already is - as most companies govern their trucks ANYWAYS - unless the mandate calls for the limiters to be set well below the average speed limits of the interstates trucks will be operating on. Trucks running at 55 in a 70MPH state - are going to have cars and other not-limited vehicles cutting in and creating unsafe conditions/causing accidents.

Rick

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Errol V.'s Comment
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Consider the carnage that is all over the roads in California, where for years trucks and school buses have been limited to 55 yet 4 wheels can zip along at 65 or 70.

Oh, wait. There is no "carnage". Nevermind!

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OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Bud A.'s Comment
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Consider the carnage that is all over the roads in California, where for years trucks and school buses have been limited to 55 yet 4 wheels can zip along at 65 or 70.

Oh, wait. There is no "carnage". Nevermind!

Yeah, California is down the list. Mississippi had the fourth highest highway fatality rate in 2015, though, so watch out on your home time, Errol!

Over The Road:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Tractor Man's Comment
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yet 4 wheels can zip along at 65 or 70.

Or 90! You haven't driven in So Cal much have you Errol???

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Errol V.'s Comment
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yet 4 wheels can zip along at 65 or 70.

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Or 90! You haven't driven in So Cal much have you Errol???

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I learned to drive in Los Angeles. 😑

Where the freeways are backed up on a Sunday afternoon! Drove tour buses (not limited to 55).

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Terminal Rat ( aka...J's Comment
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If you're on 15 driving to Vegas in your personal vehicle and doing under 90 you're likely to get rear ended. Heck, I've been doing 85 or so only to be passed by the CHP on several occasions. They usually just wave and keep driving. LOL

JJ

Sambo's Comment
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I guess my point of this question was, if OOIDA can prove to FMCSA and other government agencies that having speed limiters is deemed to be unsafe, is it not possible that the regulatory bodies would look at starting a motion to propose a new rule to outlaw speed limiters, thus forcing current companies who use them to have to remove them?

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

OOIDA:

Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association

Who They Are

OOIDA is an international trade association representing the interests of independent owner-operators and professional drivers on all issues that affect truckers. The over 150,000 members of OOIDA are men and women in all 50 states and Canada who collectively own and/or operate more than 240,000 individual heavy-duty trucks and small truck fleets.

Their Mission

The mission of OOIDA is to serve owner-operators, small fleets and professional truckers; to work for a business climate where truckers are treated equally and fairly; to promote highway safety and responsibility among all highway users; and to promote a better business climate and efficiency for all truck operators.

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