Logging ,Sleeper Berth

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Jim A.'s Comment
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Just wondering I've been logging off duty at the end of my day. I sleep in my bed at home. Is this legal or do I still need to log as sleeper. I hope being off duty is ok because I have been doing this for 6 months now. I do log SB when I am away from home.

LDRSHIP's Comment
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Sleeper berth is for only if you are in the sleeper of the truck. If not then off duty is correct. Although you can log off duty while in the sleeper berth

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

Pianoman's Comment
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Although you can log off duty while in the sleeper berth

Source? I think sleeper must be logged sleeper.

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

Eric G.'s Comment
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I was told in training you can log off duty even though your in the sleeper, but if your pulled over you most likely will have to show a hotel receipt. If not you need to show time in the sleeper.

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Although you can log off duty while in the sleeper berth

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Source? I think sleeper must be logged sleeper.

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

Jim A.'s Comment
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I was told in training you can log off duty even though your in the sleeper, but if your pulled over you most likely will have to show a hotel receipt. If not you need to show time in the sleeper.

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Although you can log off duty while in the sleeper berth

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Source? I think sleeper must be logged sleeper.

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That's the way I was told also if your not logging sleeper then you meed a hotel bill. That is why when i started staying at home I was only logging off duty. Just recently was thinking if that was wrong.

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

Pianoman's Comment
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Looks like I'm gonna have to get out my little green book and cite some sections. No, you do not need a hotel receipt if you log 10 hrs of off duty--I suppose an officer could ask for one if you told him you stayed at a hotel, but obviously there is no receipt if you stayed at home or a friend's house or gambled all night. The proper way to log if you spend the night out of the truck not working, no matter what, is Off Duty. There is no FMCSA requirement to get a certain amount of shut-eye, either.. although I guarantee that if you stay up all night at the casino and then get in an accident the next day, an officer will find something to nail you for.

I have logged off duty in the sleeper before, but I shouldn't have because technically "off duty" refers to off duty time outside the truck and "sleeper berth" refers to off duty time spent in the truck.

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
G-Town's Comment
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Jim A wrote:

I was told in training you can log off duty even though your in the sleeper, but if your pulled over you most likely will have to show a hotel receipt. If not you need to show time in the sleeper.

Not true at all. What if I didn't sleep in a hotel? 10 consecutive hours of off-duty resets the clock. No receipt required.

Here is an example: I run Walmart Dedicated and have shutdown many times at a store local to where I live. I Uber home for the 10 hour break. Next morning my clock is reset even though I didn't spend 1 minute in the sleeper. I met the HOS legal requirements for the 10 hour break and didn't stay in a hotel. Same thing applies a 34 hour reset...no receipt required.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Rick S.'s Comment
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10 hour break - is a 10 hour break, regardless of how you spent it.

The only time the regs (technically) require you to log "sleeper berth", is for an 8 hour split sleeper. If you don't log sleeper, it's not a split.

If you're sleeping in the truck - there's not reason NOT to log it as sleeper. If you're sleeping at home - you aren't (technically) IN the sleeper, so it should be logged Off Duty.

Companies may vary on how they want it shown in their logs - but the QC will show you are 10 hour reset, as long as you are Off Duty or Sleeper for a total of 10 hours consecutively.

Rick

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

Bud A.'s Comment
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The best way I ever heard it said was, "Log what you do, and do what you log." If you're not in the truck, you can't log sleeper berth.

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

Unholychaos's Comment
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The best way I ever heard it said was, "Log what you do, and do what you log."

This. Also my OSR (Operations Saftey Representative I think) told me "talk to your logs. Tell it what you're doing" I arrive at a customer, go on duty and remark "CHECK IN." Have an issue with a load and need to contact my DBL (Driver Business Leader), go off duty and remark "CONTACTING DBL." And yes, I caps lock them for some reason.

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