Getting A Medical Card

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Edward G.'s Comment
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Is dot drug test a part of my medical examination for a medical card.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

LDRSHIP's Comment
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Short answer. Yes

Edward G.'s Comment
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okay thanks Patrick C

Short answer. Yes

Lance B.'s Comment
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I was issued my medical card about 1 month ago, and it was a urine test.

Gladhand's Comment
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If you are nervous about the drug test, then wait a little longer. Not worth the trouble if you fail one.

G-Town's Comment
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Also keep in mind...you will be tested at least one more time when you attend new employee orientation. Once hired "randoms" are done with zero notice and zero exceptions. You are tested for drugs and alcohol. Only a trace amount fails the test. No tolerance.

Edward G.'s Comment
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Also keep in mind...you will be tested at least one more time when you attend new employee orientation. Once hired "randoms" are done with zero notice and zero exceptions. You are tested for drugs and alcohol. Only a trace amount fails the test. No tolerance.

not worried just didn't know if it was are wasn't

Rick S.'s Comment
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Short answer. Yes

Actually - short answer NO.

If you are getting a DOT Medical Card, as a result of a Company Physical at orientation - then the urine drop WILL BE USED to check for both Blood/Sugar/Protein (as required by the DOT PHYSICAL REQUIREMENTS) and for a Drug Screen (as required by FMCSA Pre-Hire Requirements).

I have gone for 4 DOT Physicals in the 8 years I've held my CDL. I have NEVER BEEN DRUG SCREENED AT ANY ONE OF THEM. I was drug screened at the school I attended, which was totally seperate from my DOT Med Card urine drop.

But one thing has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OTHER.

FMCSA Regs do NOT REQUIRE a Drug Screen, in order to obtain a DOT Medical Certification.

A majority of the companies we discuss here, combine a COMPANY PHYSICAL, with their DOT Physical - and will do a drug screen.

Other companies may "farm out" their pre-employment physicals, which may, or may not include a drug screen.

You WILL BE DRUG TESTED AT ORIENTATION, either way.

So - to reiterate - a Drug Screen IS NOT PART OF a DOT Medical Exam. You will be dropped for one - but to check for underlying health issues (diabetes, kidney disease), but not for substances.

Sorry Patrick - just trying to be accurate here.

Rick

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Pre-hire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

Edward G.'s Comment
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so Rick if I'm going to DMV to get my learns permit I have to get medical card first and it won't have a dot drug test to get it I have to have permit before the school I'm looking at will accept me is that correct and ps thanks for all the responses guys

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Short answer. Yes

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Actually - short answer NO.

If you are getting a DOT Medical Card, as a result of a Company Physical at orientation - then the urine drop WILL BE USED to check for both Blood/Sugar/Protein (as required by the DOT PHYSICAL REQUIREMENTS) and for a Drug Screen (as required by FMCSA Pre-Hire Requirements).

I have gone for 4 DOT Physicals in the 8 years I've held my CDL. I have NEVER BEEN DRUG SCREENED AT ANY ONE OF THEM. I was drug screened at the school I attended, which was totally seperate from my DOT Med Card urine drop.

But one thing has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OTHER.

FMCSA Regs do NOT REQUIRE a Drug Screen, in order to obtain a DOT Medical Certification.

A majority of the companies we discuss here, combine a COMPANY PHYSICAL, with their DOT Physical - and will do a drug screen.

Other companies may "farm out" their pre-employment physicals, which may, or may not include a drug screen.

You WILL BE DRUG TESTED AT ORIENTATION, either way.

So - to reiterate - a Drug Screen IS NOT PART OF a DOT Medical Exam. You will be dropped for one - but to check for underlying health issues (diabetes, kidney disease), but not for substances.

Sorry Patrick - just trying to be accurate here.

Rick

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Pre-hire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

G-Town's Comment
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Edward...help catch us up here (and maybe you have already shared this).

Are you attending a private school or a Paid CDL Training Programs? Many of the company sponsored programs will have specific instructions on when and where to get you physical and permit, timing it with your start date.

And Rick is correct, my apology for letting this go unnoticed. As with Rick, I have never been drug tested during a DOT physical, even the ones conducted for re-cert as a Swift employee by a Swift Doctor.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

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