Getting A Medical Card

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Rick S.'s Comment
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so Rick if I'm going to DMV to get my learns permit I have to get medical card first and it won't have a dot drug test to get it I have to have permit before the school I'm looking at will accept me is that correct and ps thanks for all the responses guys

Correct. And a Drug Screen is NOT REQUIRED to get a permit or CDL , or KEEP IT. It's only required when operating equipment in a "Safety Sensitive Position".

Now, technically, if you are attending a non-company school (County/State School System or Private CDL School), and will be operating a CMV on public streets - THEY are required to test you. And chances are YOU WILL BE TESTED AT SOME POINT.

So, as others have advised - if you even thing for a heartbeat, that you WILL NOT PASS a drug screen - best to wait. Any drug screen you are asked to perform, as a prerequisite to driving a CMV - is a DOT DRUG SCREEN.

If this school happens require you to test at the DOT Medical Examiner of THEIR CHOOSING (Concentra, etc.) - they may in fact combine the drug screen WITH the physical. The County (Public) school I attended, gave us a list of DOT Medical Examiners we could go to, or choose our own. I've been using the same guy ever since - he's the cheapest in town ($35 - my own primary care doctor gets $90, and it's not covered by insurance), and I'm in & out in under 15 minutes.

Rick

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

CMV:

Commercial Motor Vehicle

A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

  • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
  • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
  • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
  • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
  • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Eric G.'s Comment
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The urine test at the dot physical tests fir proteins, blood sugar levels to see if your diabetic, etc. it's a medical screen to make sure your body is on for the type of job your performing.

The companies may also do a delegate urine/folicle test that's a drug screen

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Edward G.'s Comment
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okay it's a company sponsored school basically Rual school witch to my understandings I have to get my permit and then contact them and they will get the ball rolling correct me if I'm wrong and hope I spelled it right

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so Rick if I'm going to DMV to get my learns permit I have to get medical card first and it won't have a dot drug test to get it I have to have permit before the school I'm looking at will accept me is that correct and ps thanks for all the responses guys

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Correct. And a Drug Screen is NOT REQUIRED to get a permit or CDL , or KEEP IT. It's only required when operating equipment in a "Safety Sensitive Position".

Now, technically, if you are attending a non-company school (County/State School System or Private CDL School), and will be operating a CMV on public streets - THEY are required to test you. And chances are YOU WILL BE TESTED AT SOME POINT.

So, as others have advised - if you even thing for a heartbeat, that you WILL NOT PASS a drug screen - best to wait. Any drug screen you are asked to perform, as a prerequisite to driving a CMV - is a DOT DRUG SCREEN.

If this school happens require you to test at the DOT Medical Examiner of THEIR CHOOSING (Concentra, etc.) - they may in fact combine the drug screen WITH the physical. The County (Public) school I attended, gave us a list of DOT Medical Examiners we could go to, or choose our own. I've been using the same guy ever since - he's the cheapest in town ($35 - my own primary care doctor gets $90, and it's not covered by insurance), and I'm in & out in under 15 minutes.

Rick

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

CMV:

Commercial Motor Vehicle

A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

  • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
  • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
  • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
  • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
  • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

G-Town's Comment
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That's good, you have a plan...do you mean Roehl?

Edward G.'s Comment
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yes thanks some of that Red Bud spelling lol inside joke

That's good, you have a plan...do you mean Roehl?

Rick S.'s Comment
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okay it's a company sponsored school basically Rual school witch to my understandings I have to get my permit and then contact them and they will get the ball rolling correct me if I'm wrong and hope I spelled it right

A DOT Medical Certification is required in order to obtain a CLP or CDL.

If the school is NOT PART of the company (many companies pay for their students to attend an outside school - while some Prime/Swift/etc., do their schools in house), then the school will likely test you, and you will likely be tested again, after getting your CDL and going to orientation.

If the company/school didn't specify where to go for your DOT Medical Exam, and simply told you that they required you to obtain your permit PRIOR TO attending the school - then no drug screen, just a DOT Medical Exam.

Will you be attending school in the SAME STATE that you reside in? Are you going to have an issue passing a drug screen if you went TODAY?

Rick

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

Edward G.'s Comment
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yes on same state on on problems with drug test

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okay it's a company sponsored school basically Rual school witch to my understandings I have to get my permit and then contact them and they will get the ball rolling correct me if I'm wrong and hope I spelled it right

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A DOT Medical Certification is required in order to obtain a CLP or CDL.

If the school is NOT PART of the company (many companies pay for their students to attend an outside school - while some Prime/Swift/etc., do their schools in house), then the school will likely test you, and you will likely be tested again, after getting your CDL and going to orientation.

If the company/school didn't specify where to go for your DOT Medical Exam, and simply told you that they required you to obtain your permit PRIOR TO attending the school - then no drug screen, just a DOT Medical Exam.

Will you be attending school in the SAME STATE that you reside in? Are you going to have an issue passing a drug screen if you went TODAY?

Rick

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

Rick S.'s Comment
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yes on same state on on problems with drug test

So, barring any health issues that would fail you on a DOT Medical Exam - go get your card, go get your permit - go get your training - GO GET YOUR CAREER.

Rick

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Edward G.'s Comment
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thanks again for all the responses and GOD BLESS YOU ALL and be careful out there JESUS LOVES EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US

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yes on same state on on problems with drug test

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So, barring any health issues that would fail you on a DOT Medical Exam - go get your card, go get your permit - go get your training - GO GET YOUR CAREER.

Rick

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

LDRSHIP's Comment
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My drug screen was part of BOTH DOT physicals I did. So a better answer is: depends. On state and who is conducting the exam.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

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