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Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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My malamute actually came into the house with the burglars and they fed her. The neighbors saw the criminals but thought they must have been family since the huge dog followed the bad guys around.

Now...my Dalmatian on the other hand was 100 pounds and would eat a small man and take a bullet for me. Lol

Terminal Rat ( aka...J's Comment
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I prefer Huskies, Malamutes, or wolf Hybrids.. no one pushes the issue when something that looks like a wolf wants to turn your face into dessert.

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"Oh, since that guy only has a 110 pound German Shepherd let's get him! It's not like he has a Malamute." - said no one, ever.

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There's also a good reason you won't see those dogs used for law enforcement or military. But they are great looking dogs.

LMAO! Great post! I've actually had several police officers knock on my door only to have Nova, my 85 lb female GS peer through the curtains. The cops actually went and waited by the curb for me to put her away. LOL!

JJ

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Brett Aquila's Comment
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My malamute actually came into the house with the burglars and they fed her. The neighbors saw the criminals but thought they must have been family since the huge dog followed the bad guys around.

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That's hilarious! Labrador Retrievers tend to be the same way. Never met a person they couldn't make feel welcome. "Hey, nice to have a new face around here for a change!" LoL!

The cops actually went and waited by the curb for me to put her away. LOL!

Ha ha! Yeah, I don't doubt that. Protective dogs often freak out when they see uniforms. I don't know what it is about uniforms, but it triggers something in them.

Jakester's Comment
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I know this is an old topic, like to know if you all still feel the same? This is a job and I’m leaning to do it better every day, won’t just leave my life to a company policy, got 4 littleones and a whole bunch of bills to be paid,!i do the rite thing work hard run hard, i in this **** going on would be a fool not to be be packing, not gonna be a victim and don’t really care about any damn law

PackRat's Comment
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Until you get locked up.

I find most people with strong feelings have never had to take another's life.

Anne A. (momcat)'s Comment
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I know this is an old topic, like to know if you all still feel the same? This is a job and I’m leaning to do it better every day, won’t just leave my life to a company policy, got 4 littleones and a whole bunch of bills to be paid,!i do the rite thing work hard run hard, i in this **** going on would be a fool not to be be packing, not gonna be a victim and don’t really care about any damn law

Hay, Jakester~! I remember you...ya don't post much anymore. :(

FWIW:

I'm just a bystander, and trucker's wife....but IMHO, if you feel so strongly about CCP 'ing in a rig, perhaps you could get an intrastate job in Texas? I know (or have read?) that TX has more liberal policies. Just my two cents.

If you are still with FFE, it probably won't fly. My hubby works intrastate Ohio, for a company with zero tolerance .. and even though he HAS all permits, it's a huge NOPE in the company CMV. Immediate termination, here.

PackRat is 1000% right, and he'd probably rather carry, too.

Best of luck to you, either way you decide. Many O/O's (and perhaps companies?) are refusing to deliver to states that have defunded their PD's. Article is here:

Refusing defunded PD counties/towns deliveries

Anne :) ~

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

CMV:

Commercial Motor Vehicle

A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

  • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
  • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
  • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
  • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
  • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards

Intrastate:

The act of purchasers and sellers transacting business while keeping all transactions in a single state, without crossing state lines to do so.

Anne A. (momcat)'s Comment
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Until you get locked up.

I find most people with strong feelings have never had to take another's life.

You, are 100% correct. Military family brat(s) here, too. Again, thank you for that, good sir.

Jakester's Comment
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Anne A, ive been running so hard the last 2 months I just try to sleep, still with FFE and decided to just use common sense VRS carrying out here, I will be honest, this job is hard enough and I don’t understand how and company or anyone for that matter can tell a law abiding citizen that they can’t have the privilege to defend themselves if need be, and please I don’t need here about hammers and bug spray, the 2nd amendment has no articles saying truckers can’t live in peace, anyhow, I hope your all doing well and yes it’s been a while, I live live this job and thank TT for just about everything getting me going, I’m good at this job, I just miss my kids a lot and doing some hard thinking if it’s worth it or not, take care everyone and stay strong.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Moose Holland's Comment
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Obviously company policy trumps everything. Even if it's legal in your state, your company may disallow it. With Prime, getting caught with a gun on board is one of the quickest ways to be out of a job. They literally fire you on the spot without letting you drive the truck to a terminal.

Does Prime or others do a shakedown, surprise search, of your personal gear/sleeper area at times just to see if you happen to be carrying heat? Some drivers might rather gamble losing the job than be an unarmed victim of a violent attack. I figure the only way the company would even know about a gun is if the gun would ever have to be used, God forbid, in any scary situation. As far as the various state/local laws go, having the gun in a locked case with no ammunition inside the same case in your sleeper area (the key word here is personal abode) should pretty much keep you clear of trouble with the man. When you are asleep in your rig is when you need the heat mostly. There are all the scary stories I have heard about of rigs getting broken into and sleeping drivers attacked inside in unsavory places to park at night. Being a pro-Second-A advocate and a life member of Gun Owners of America, I favor more pro-gun legislation especially at the federal level which would severely limit the power of companies, the several states and various local jurisdictions therein with regard to imposing firearms restrictions on those traveling and working away from home and wishing to be armed for personal security. I fully support national concealed carry legislation. Driving often involves engaging in interstate commerce. A dog, German Shepherd or otherwise, might be too much of a burden for some to pack along out on the road. I would not want the poor animal cooped up in a truck most of the time. I'm frankly surprised New York City's draconian anti-gun laws haven't been overturned by SCOTUS yet. Heller was a big boon to the right of Americans to keep and bear arms. I understand that companies worry about firearms liability. A good solution might be to allow the driver to carry on duty under the condition he/she supply his/her own personal firearms liability insurance.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Interstate Commerce:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Moose Holland's Comment
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Until you get locked up.

I find most people with strong feelings have never had to take another's life.

Better to justifiably kill than unlawfully be murdered.

Anne A, ive been running so hard the last 2 months I just try to sleep, still with FFE and decided to just use common sense VRS carrying out here, I will be honest, this job is hard enough and I don’t understand how and company or anyone for that matter can tell a law abiding citizen that they can’t have the privilege to defend themselves if need be, and please I don’t need here about hammers and bug spray, the 2nd amendment has no articles saying truckers can’t live in peace, anyhow, I hope your all doing well and yes it’s been a while, I live live this job and thank TT for just about everything getting me going, I’m good at this job, I just miss my kids a lot and doing some hard thinking if it’s worth it or not, take care everyone and stay strong.

Jakester, I give you a high five! thank-you.gif

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
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