Some Confusion About The Use Of Sleeper Berth At Shippers/Receivers

Come run a day cab no sleeper to worry about and less math, just do your 14 and go home

P>I was actually sorta aiming that at Chuck and his misunderstanding of the 8/2 split versus the team rest provision... lol

There is NO misunderstanding in this rule. Instructors at school explained it and to each their own. The DOT rule also states that the rule needs to be used consecutively. 2 hours not in sleeper and 8 hours in sleeper. You can do it any order but they must run consecutively in order to fulfill the 10 hour rule.

Updated: Thursday, March 9, 2017 from FMCSA website Sleeper Berth Provision Drivers using the sleeper berth provision must take at least 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth, plus a separate 2 consecutive hours either in the sleeper berth, off duty, or any combination of the two.

With all due respect Chuck, you're still wrong. I don't know if you are trolling us, or if you genuinely believe what you're saying. Either way, spreading misinformation on a site that's designed to teach new drivers is just wrong.

Updated: Thursday, March 9, 2017 from FMCSA website Sleeper Berth Provision Drivers using the sleeper berth provision must take at least 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth, plus a separate 2 consecutive hours either in the sleeper berth, off duty, or any combination of the two.

Per your own update:

The 8-hour must be consecutive, and the two-hour must be consecutive. That doesn't mean both breaks need to be consecutive. It's kind of silly to call it an 8/2 split if they are to be done in order, doncha think?

8 hours in the sleeper consecutive with 2 hours of off duty/sleeper is called a 10 hour break.

8 hours of consecutive sleeper, followed by a period of on duty or drive time, followed by 2 hours of consecutive sleeper/off duty is an 8/2 split. It doesn't matter if the 8 hour sleeper or the 2 hour sleeper/off duty comes first. So it can effectively be either an 8/2 split or a 2/8 split.

I think the confusion is what the word consecutive is being applied to.

P>I was actually sorta aiming that at Chuck and his misunderstanding of the 8/2 split versus the team rest provision... lol

There is NO misunderstanding in this rule. Instructors at school explained it and to each their own. The DOT rule also states that the rule needs to be used consecutively. 2 hours not in sleeper and 8 hours in sleeper. You can do it any order but they must run consecutively in order to fulfill the 10 hour rule.

Yes...you are confused. or your instructor is.

the 8/2 split allows you to drive BETWEEN the 8 and the 2breaks. that is the point of the rule.

i can drive 5 hours, take an 8 sleeper which pauses my 14 clock and after the 8 sleeper i will have 6 hours of drive time. i can then drive 3 hours and take a 2 hour break, then i will have 11 hours minus the 3 hours i drove betweem the two breaks...which leaves me with 8 hours of drive time.

the "consecutive" for EACH break means you cannot do 4 hours sleeper then drive then 4 hours sleeper and count it as 8 sleeper. the 8 sleeper must be consecutive within an 8 hour period.

You cannot take two seperate one hour breaks and consider that as fullfilling a 2hour break. The 2 hours off duty whether off duty or sleeper must be consecutive WITHIN a two hour period.

you cannot go on duty at all during the 8 or the 2 break.

on a 10 hr break you can be completely off duty, completely in sleeper or any combination there of. so your idea that you must do 8 sleeper "next" to a 2 hr off duty makes no sense

the 8/2 split rule splits the break so you can drive in between.

The High Road has a section about this in the HOS section.

You all suggested "don't worry about it now, you will learn later." Well, thanks to Turtle's and Rainy D's explanations while correcting others, I did get a great idea how it works! HAH! My devious plan worked perfectly!

HAH! My devious plan worked perfectly!

I knew you were a sneaky...er.... I mean intelligent one.

You all suggested "don't worry about it now, you will learn later." Well, thanks to Turtle's and Rainy D's explanations while correcting others, I did get a great idea how it works! HAH! My devious plan worked perfectly!

Nice going, Sneaky Donnie. After reading all these conflicting posts, I'm just about confused now!