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Chris W.'s Comment
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I have just gotten my CDL in July 2018 and went to orientation at a large company 8/13/18. I went in to take my urinalysis and gave the sample o the nurse, long to short, she took me to the safety guys office and said I had a “cold sample”. I wanted to either pour that sample in a different cup or retest and was told that if I would admit to falsifying the test and be willing to be strip searched I could be retested. So, I agreed. I got taken to the bathroom and then right back to the office without a search of any kind and told they would be reporting my refusal to take a urinalysis and asked to leave. I have literally sunk everything I have into becoming a truck driver and nownit seems like I’m screwed. What can I do?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Big Scott's Comment
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Why was your sample cold? If what you're saying is true, you can contact that company's safety department an explain with 100% honesty that you were not searched and given a chance to retest. Humble yourself and ask if there is any way you can rectify this situation.

Cwc's Comment
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Why was your sample cold? If what you're saying is true, you can contact that company's safety department an explain with 100% honesty that you were not searched and given a chance to retest. Humble yourself and ask if there is any way you can rectify this situation.

If you go back and read some of his other questions you can read about one in particular. The one concerning medications like Suboxone. It's commonly used to wean off of painkillers and or Heroin.

My wife worked as a lab technician for years and even did DOT samples. When you have a cold sample it's not because you just ate ice chips or drank a cold glass of water. It's cause that bag of fake pee wasn't heated to correct temperature before you poured it into the cup.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

G-Town's Comment
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You cheated and got caught. Your story of the retest is BS and you know it.

Real advice? Take responsibility for your actions and accept accountability. This is a life lesson now. Don’t forget it.

Beyond that...I suggest another career path because the door on this one is likely closed for the foreseeable future.

Old School's Comment
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Chris, I'm pretty sure you can't trick this group of people in this forum. There's a collective group of people here with a lot of life experiences. You may have thought you could fool the trucking company you started with, but that didn't go well for you. I don't think there's any advice we can give you other than get it together.

You may believe your own stories, but for me there's way too many holes in what you've shared with us for you to have any credibility.

Turtle's Comment
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You failed to listen in your other post and thought you knew more than everybody else. Now apparently you thought you were smarter than the trucking company as well, and have a failed drug test to show for it. Well done.

Advice? Find a new career, because you'll likely never drive a truck unless some mom-and-pop operation picks you up. I don't know the odds on that.

Brian's Comment
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All that time you invested to get your cdl. You could of invested a few extra months and got clean. Instead your chance of working for any reputable company are shot. Kiss that shiny cdl good-bye. There is no advice available here.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

∆_Danielsahn_∆'s Comment
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It's a bitter pill to swallow. (pun intended.)

However, there are some companies that will give you a chance. For some to say that they are not reputable, is very misleading. There are those people that would say Western Express is far from reputable, and also Swift, and even Prime, or Schneider. It is all subjective. Carolina Cargo comes to mind, and even CR England has been known to take chances on people.

But the key, is that you are 100% Honest, and committed to making this work. You dug yourself a big hole, that will take a huge effort on your part. And it starts by being 100% honest with those people that are here to help.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

Brian's Comment
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Maybe I'm wrong but are any of those companies listed hiring drivers with a failed drug test in their dac? I know Schneider won't be.

It's a bitter pill to swallow. (pun intended.)

However, there are some companies that will give you a chance. For some to say that they are not reputable, is very misleading. There are those people that would say Western Express is far from reputable, and also Swift, and even Prime, or Schneider. It is all subjective. Carolina Cargo comes to mind, and even CR England has been known to take chances on people.

But the key, is that you are 100% Honest, and committed to making this work. You dug yourself a big hole, that will take a huge effort on your part. And it starts by being 100% honest with those people that are here to help.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

∆_Danielsahn_∆'s Comment
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Maybe I'm wrong but are any of those companies listed hiring drivers with a failed drug test in their dac? I know Schneider won't be.

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It's a bitter pill to swallow. (pun intended.)

However, there are some companies that will give you a chance. For some to say that they are not reputable, is very misleading. There are those people that would say Western Express is far from reputable, and also Swift, and even Prime, or Schneider. It is all subjective. Carolina Cargo comes to mind, and even CR England has been known to take chances on people.

But the key, is that you are 100% Honest, and committed to making this work. You dug yourself a big hole, that will take a huge effort on your part. And it starts by being 100% honest with those people that are here to help.

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So that is what determines a reputable company? Have you worked for those "unreputable" companies. If not, then it is only hearsay, and potentially "rat" thinking. I am not trying to be confrontational, just trying to shed some perspective.

We all got into this industry in various ways, from various backgrounds. Some of us had obstacles we had to overcome. Some self inflicted. Some took traditional paths, some took harder paths. The point is, just because you might look down on a certain company, for whatever reason, that company might give a person a "second chance," and change their life, and allow them to build a better future.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

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