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Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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For sure. The way it was put to me was as long as I was "available for load", I got paid. And I did.

Shoot man, when my trainer went to Vegas for a week I stayed at his house and watched his dogs for him. I ate the groceries he bought for me, I had his personal car at my disposal, I hung out with his dogs, played his PlayStation, and Istill got my $700

Thanks for the laugh!

Dan S.'s Comment
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By comparison from the Great Lakes Truck Driving School

Classroom instruction of introducing students to the trucking industry, it's regulations, laws, taxes and standards it covered a wide range of subjects to strengthen the students knowledge in truck driving techniques, maneuvers and safety awareness.

Driving range instruction consists of teaching students how to properly maintain their equippment, couple and un couple tractor trailer combinations, practice various backing maneuvers to advance student skill levels.

On road instruction introduces the student to various traffic situations and to various roadway systems to develop safe driving techniques. Students apply my speed and space management, visual search, communication, shifting techniques, double clutching , progressive shifting and defensive driving techniques to safely operate a tractor trailer. A total of 450 miles of on road training is implemented to develop the students performance level.

Double Clutch:

To engage and then disengage the clutch twice for every gear change.

When double clutching you will push in the clutch, take the gearshift out of gear, release the clutch, press the clutch in again, shift the gearshift into the next gear, then release the clutch.

This is done on standard transmissions which do not have synchronizers in them, like those found in almost all Class A trucks.

Double Clutching:

To engage and then disengage the clutch twice for every gear change.

When double clutching you will push in the clutch, take the gearshift out of gear, release the clutch, press the clutch in again, shift the gearshift into the next gear, then release the clutch.

This is done on standard transmissions which do not have synchronizers in them, like those found in almost all Class A trucks.

Dan S.'s Comment
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BTW That's 240 hours of instruction + 450 miles

Dan S.'s Comment
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"THERE WERE A HELL OF A LOT OF THINGS THEY DIDNT TELL ME WHEN I JOINED UP WITH THIS OUTFIT!"

"LIFE IS HARD!

ITS EVEN HARDER WHEN YOUR STUPID!"

John Wayne

"

Dan S.'s Comment
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I'm am currently with Prime, Inc.

Already having completed their PSD training and currently having completed almost 10,000 of their 30k TNT training, I find myself, back home in Alabama this past week, and the next without an income for these two weeks, and the following week, as I won't be back on a truck until the 5th of September.

I have already incurred financial hardship under going training with Prime since the 28th of June of this year. That's almost two months of essentially being without an income save the $200 advances, and three checks, one for approximately $110, and two for $700 and $800.

I have my Alabama CDL with a eyeglass restriction, automatic transmission restriction, a two year DOT health care, and a TWIC card, (Currently waiting for me at Drivers Line Up in Springfield, Missouri)

I hope you can appreciate and understand my situation and circumstances .

Simply put I need and want to work? At present I'm juggling bills, negotiating with creditors, I'm available for dispatch, but no way to get back to Springfield Missouri except for my lease operator trainer who is on Home Time x two weeks.

I'm available for OTR , have a supportive wife even though she's not understanding that I've a job and only have approximately $1400 gross to show for two months from which there are being taken $25 per week deductions for $200 advances, $126 or so for TWIC Cards, plus taxes.

Meanwhile I've paid out of pocket approximately $66 for a Missouri CDP, $66 for a Missouri CDL, $100 Admin Fee, $93 for a transfer of my CDL'S from Missouri to Alabama.

Added that other out of pocket expenses. It SEEMS I'm spending more than I'm bringing in?

Any input appreciated. I see no other recourse other than to examine other employment opportunities?

Yes, I'm looking for another job.

Any and everywhere. Trucking or not. I'm even thinking about going groveling back to my old low paying, no paying dead end, life sucking, soul sucking manufacturing job.

A dollar is better than nothing.

Talk to Stan?

I know how THAT works.

Twenty years in the Marines, four years of college? And I'm unattainable?

There's the old stand by

COLLEGE EDUCATED IDIOT

NO COMMON SENSE

Yada ~ yada ~ yada

I'm no quiter but damn at this point I'd be better off bringing in SOMETHING rather than NOTHING!

I guess Prime has driver candidates galore just falling off the trees in Springfield with CDL's, 2 year DOT Med Cards, TWIC Cards, willing to fall all over themselves to work for $500 A week, or three weeks no pay due or a freaking negative check after paying for their TWIC card etc.

Stan, Linda, George,

Me against my trainer, fleet manager?

I'm just so much grease monkey gunk

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Fleet Manager:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.

TNT:

Trainer-N-Trainee

Prime Inc has their own CDL training program and it's divided into two phases - PSD and TNT.

The PSD (Prime Student Driver) phase is where you'll get your permit and then go on the road for 10,000 miles with a trainer. When you come back you'll get your CDL license and enter the TNT phase.

The TNT phase is the second phase of training where you'll go on the road with an experienced driver for 30,000 miles of team driving. You'll receive 14¢ per mile ($700 per week guaranteed) during this phase. Once you're finished with TNT training you will be assigned a truck to run solo.

Dan S.'s Comment
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Right now?

I'd take a 01 dispatch out of L.A or Newark, NJ during rush hour traffic across the Washington Bridge hauling Rubber Duckies out of Hong Kong

Dan S.'s Comment
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Or hauling cow manure out of Texas through Dallas/Fort Worth turning high noon!

Dan S.'s Comment
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During high noon on a HOT Summers day durning rush hour in Dallas / Fort Worth

Rob T.'s Comment
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Dan don't give up. I understand your frustrations. If you throw in the towel now its gonna be difficult finding something else worth while. Listen to what turtle has said about still pulling in $700 because your trainer is on hometime. Make a call to prime and let them know whats going on. Everything ive heard from the members here shows that prime truly cares about their employees.

Turtle's Comment
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Dan, you were told what to do. So get it done Marine. Call Stan. That's his job! You are but a drop in a bucket full of trainees under his watch. If he doesn't hear from you, he doesn't know there's a problem.

If you didn't agree to take two weeks off at home, then you are entitled to your guaranteed $700!! That's what a guarantee is for, by definition.

But it sounds like you've already adopted a "me versus them" mentality. You'd rather just give up, when you're only 20k miles away from being done. That'll show em!

Seriously Dan, you've got to get in front of this problem now before it gets worse. Calmly talk to Stan or Linda about your concerns.

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