Prime PSD Phase

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Prime told you in orientation exactly what to do if the instructors fall asleep. They told you to pull off the road to a safe place immediately and message dispatch. Instead you came on a public acting as if you were not told what to do. Every orientation class is told the same thing. You were also given names and phone numbers of training coordinators such as Stan or Brooke to discuss such matters.

At the end of PSD they will give you an evaluation form of the instructor. You can report her then, but the response may be "Why didnt you tell us? So you are saying that YOU knowingly drove illegally? Meaning you willing broke Prime policy?" As an employer would you want any driver who does not follow policy, a driver you cant trust?

As for the night driving, in PSD it used to be you could not drive between midnight and 0500. im not sure if that still stands.

Trainers are sneaky...are you sure she is really on her phome and not watching your mirrors, cause i do that. Many students are nervous thinking every movement is watched. others want every movement to be watched.

Trucking can be tough at times and easy at others. We need to be able to make tough decisions. Picking and choosing battles is another aspect.

Do what you feel iis safe and necessary. Know who your resources are when you need help.

good luck

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I honestly believe because I got there the 28th of June, just before the 4th of July holiday that I went through some abbreviated version of indoctrination.

Because EVERYTHING you just listed is the first time I've heard it.

Most of the information I got was from you and others here at TNT.

To the OP building a trusting ~ working relationship like ANYTHING takes time.

I didn't remember the sleeping scenario covered either. I did orientation over over the week of Thanksgiving and things were a little accelerated. I really could have just missed it, but I will definitely follow procedure in the future. And yeah, she's snoring, unless she is an Oscar calibre actress is say she's not just being sneaky. We did talk though and I want this to improve. Its been strained from the beginning and I don't want to make it worse with a week to go. I don't want to break policy out of ignorance either. Rainy, would you suggest I go ahead and call after the fact?

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.

TNT:

Trainer-N-Trainee

Prime Inc has their own CDL training program and it's divided into two phases - PSD and TNT.

The PSD (Prime Student Driver) phase is where you'll get your permit and then go on the road for 10,000 miles with a trainer. When you come back you'll get your CDL license and enter the TNT phase.

The TNT phase is the second phase of training where you'll go on the road with an experienced driver for 30,000 miles of team driving. You'll receive 14¢ per mile ($700 per week guaranteed) during this phase. Once you're finished with TNT training you will be assigned a truck to run solo.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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And yeah, she's snoring, unless she is an Oscar calibre actress is say she's not just being sneaky.

LOL. Don't mind me, I tend to be paranoid.

Rainy D.'s Comment
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And yeah, she's snoring, unless she is an Oscar calibre actress Rainy, would you suggest I go ahead and call after the fact?

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omg that was good.... welcome to Prime. Thats the kinda attitude you need out here. lol

It would probably be a good idea to tell them "i woke her up repeatedly" or something like that rather than "i drove 1000 miles while she slept."

im assuming you never knowingly drove illegally, and you woke her immediately, right?

are you learning? that is the important thing here.

As a trainer its infuriating to see crappy trainers. it makes us all look bad. Prime wont know who the bad apples are until you report them, they cant see what is going on in that truck.

i admit, my PSD instructor slept quite a bit while i was driving but i was more calm than having him on top of me slamming the shifter into gear.

however, he was a great guy who truly taught me to handle the machine..just not backing lol... i couldnt understand his points at all.

The automatic is much easier to learn and therefore i personally think the training pay should be changed as well as training length. But who am I?

good luck with whatever you decide. Perhaps we can meet up. i.love meeting fellow Primates smile.gif

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.
Hey You's Comment
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Primates, I love that! I hope we can. Yes, I am learning and I feel confident for test time. And no, certainly not knowingly driving illegally. Thanks for your advice and encouraging words. I appreciate everyone who has chimed in!

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Old School's Comment
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Michelle, these articles were not written with Prime's PSD training period in mind, but you may find them helpful in the grand scheme of training.

New Drivers - Beware Of Rocking The Boat

What Should I Expect To Learn From My Trainer?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.
Hey You's Comment
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Michelle, these articles were not written with Prime's PSD training period in mind, but you may find them helpful in the grand scheme of training.

New Drivers - Beware Of Rocking The Boat

What Should I Expect To Learn From My Trainer?

These are great! Thank you very much!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.
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