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Rainy 's Comment
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Hi and welcome Skadoosh.

The raised seal refers to a government recorded copy, not a hospital certificate. We have a couple members here born outside the US so perhaps they can chime in. My guess would be your naturization documents would work.

As for the continued question of work verfication...so.many people apply and even set appointments for orientation but then dont show up. it is a waste of time and money to process everyone. Therefore they do preliminary checks before you arrive.

Once you get to orientation and go through the physical drug test and contract...you go through all of the application papers again. You sit in an interview discussing your past jobs, criminal and driving history in a face to face one on one interview. This is after the work, criminal, and driving history is run more in depth verficiations.

Smart C keeps.thinking it is done once, but it isnt. We have discussed this with hom on other threads. And the driver is asked in person to confirm or discuss anything omitted. Some of these checks cost a lot of money and they do t waste it on people who are not guaranteed to show. Some of it is just to see how one reacts. If they did a cheap report before you came.and it says "Manager at Sears" but you get there and never mentioned Sears they are going to want to know why.

As for your case, remember you will need one year driving in the US before you can start. good luck.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Lou's Comment
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Hi Rainy and thank you for welcome and the quick response. I understand it's always a good idea to bring whatever documentation one has and I completely understand what you have been saying. I was just curious about my birth certificate. My naturalization paperwork does have a government seal on it so I think that would suffice along with other documents.

As for driving in the US for one year, I have a current US state driver's license and have had one since I started driving way back in.....! Do you where I can find more information on that? I'm living in Japan but am a US citizen paying US taxes etc... My situation is a bit different than most I suppose. My wife works for the US government and is here on orders so I am here as a dependent, if any of that makes sense. I'm trying not to get into a lot of military jargon. Basically, I'm not a Japanese citizen and would not be allowed to stay or work here if it wasn't for her employment status with the US government. Either way, my point is I never went without a state driver's license and I have nearly 30 years of driving history.

Thanks again!

Jrod's Comment
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As a recruiter, I can tell you that 98% I don't care what happened to you at Jimmy Johns. or QuikTrip. Or ShopKo. Especially if you were in school.

Unless it is something that reflects on a bigger issue - drug/alcohol use, violence, or chronically repeated issues of time management issues, but that's a stretch.

DO THEY CARE IF YOU'VE BEEN FIRED FROM NON DRIVING JOBS? What do they ask employers when they call? Also it is indeed 10 years at orientation regardless of commercial experience....

Jrod's Comment
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I get what he is saying.

•DOT requires carriers verify 3 years. •We go one step farther, and verify the last 5 years. •On our application though, We ask for a full 10 year history on the application, and make sure it lines up with DAC/PSP/Older applications. Just gives us a better idea of a driver's experience.

So while we do ask for 10 years, we really only do hardcore verifying on the last 5 years, and just a cursory glance at the oldest 5 years.

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WHAT DOES IT MATTER WHAT WE SAY? you got responses then you asked again. you asked a recruiter and you dont believe him and dont believe us.

they, like all employment verification will ask "From what dates was he employed and is he hirable again?" aka was he fired?

The paper specifically says "3 years for all nondriving jobs and 10 years for any CDL driving jobs"

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What paper? Their site says they want 3 years initially then all 10 once there for EVERYONE. You tell me they're "very tough and selective". So why wouldn't I be skeptical when they tell me they only verify three years?? It's not that I don't believe you or them, however because of a inconsistency, I cant help but be a little confused.

Are they rehireable? What an unfair question. I had a crazy chef I worked for. Busted my ass..had to quit. When I quit, he was very upset because my notice was only a week/he's crazy, always mad, always throwing things. He told me if anyone called he would tell them he wouldn't hire me again. But I wasn't fired, I quit. Hopefully I can give them Hr's direct number and he'll never be contacted. If direct supervisors are contacted, I might be screwed.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Smart C.'s Comment
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As a recruiter, I can tell you that 98% I don't care what happened to you at Jimmy Johns. or QuikTrip. Or ShopKo. Especially if you were in school.

Unless it is something that reflects on a bigger issue - drug/alcohol use, violence, or chronically repeated issues of time management issues, but that's a stretch.

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DO THEY CARE IF YOU'VE BEEN FIRED FROM NON DRIVING JOBS? What do they ask employers when they call? Also it is indeed 10 years at orientation regardless of commercial experience....

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Who are you a recruiter for? I not really worried about what happens during the recruiting process. As Rainy has mentioned, that past is essentially irrelevant considering a "more in depth verification" is done at Prime.

Smart C.'s Comment
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Hi and welcome Skadoosh.

The raised seal refers to a government recorded copy, not a hospital certificate. We have a couple members here born outside the US so perhaps they can chime in. My guess would be your naturization documents would work.

As for the continued question of work verfication...so.many people apply and even set appointments for orientation but then dont show up. it is a waste of time and money to process everyone. Therefore they do preliminary checks before you arrive.

Once you get to orientation and go through the physical drug test and contract...you go through all of the application papers again. You sit in an interview discussing your past jobs, criminal and driving history in a face to face one on one interview. This is after the work, criminal, and driving history is run more in depth verficiations.

Smart C keeps.thinking it is done once, but it isnt. We have discussed this with hom on other threads. And the driver is asked in person to confirm or discuss anything omitted. Some of these checks cost a lot of money and they do t waste it on people who are not guaranteed to show. Some of it is just to see how one reacts. If they did a cheap report before you came.and it says "Manager at Sears" but you get there and never mentioned Sears they are going to want to know why.

As for your case, remember you will need one year driving in the US before you can start. good luck.

What exactly do you mean by "work and driving history is verified more in depth? Especially driving. What else about my driving record needs to be verified?? Are you saying they take our word in the initial application about our history and then look at our actual MVR upon arrival?

MVR:

Motor Vehicle Record

An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Turtle's Comment
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Smart C, you are incredibly hung up on this verification thing. Is there anything you don't want them to see? If it's something they asked for, you better tell them. You need to go on the assumption that they will find it.

It's already been perfectly explained to you, yet you're still not getting it.

As long as you told the complete truth on your application you should have nothing to fear now that you've been invited to orientation. 3yr, 10yr, whatever. It doesn't matter, as long as you told the truth on your application.

The verification process, whether perfunctory or in-depth, is simply verifying the answers you gave on the application. If you omitted something from the time period they asked for and they find it, you're done.

If the application asked you for a 3-year history, you better have given a complete history for those 3 years. The same applies if they asked for a 10 year history. They are going to verify that you told the truth. As Jrod mentioned, they may not necessarily care about the specifics, only that you're telling the truth about it. Nobody expects perfection, they expect honesty.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Army 's Comment
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Turtle

I was thinking the same thing. Seems to be hyper focused, and generally that means (not always) something is trying to stay hidden.

Smart C.'s Comment
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Smart C, you are incredibly hung up on this verification thing. Is there anything you don't want them to see? If it's something they asked for, you better tell them. You need to go on the assumption that they will find it.

It's already been perfectly explained to you, yet you're still not getting it.

As long as you told the complete truth on your application you should have nothing to fear now that you've been invited to orientation. 3yr, 10yr, whatever. It doesn't matter, as long as you told the truth on your application.

The verification process, whether perfunctory or in-depth, is simply verifying the answers you gave on the application. If you omitted something from the time period they asked for and they find it, you're done.

If the application asked you for a 3-year history, you better have given a complete history for those 3 years. The same applies if they asked for a 10 year history. They are going to verify that you told the truth. As Jrod mentioned, they may not necessarily care about the specifics, only that you're telling the truth about it. Nobody expects perfection, they expect honesty.

It absolutely has not been perfectly explained. Recruiting had a hard time getting a hold of someone for verification multiple times for orientation. They wanted more info during that simple process .Now I'm being told that an even more in depth verification has to be done when I get there. ** I don't want to be in an impossible situation.** If they need someone else to call for instance...I don't want to have to depend on people to pick up phones. It's different when I'm still here at home. I can drive to whoever it is and tell them to pick up the darn phone. I can go and look for additional paperwork. I can have paperwork sent to me and just postpone orientation.

And yes, I was completely honest. No, I have nothing to hide. I provided 3 years of history, everything included. Which again was a pain to get verified. So if for some reason if that were to switch to say 10 or even 5 years work history once I'm there, I'm likely screwed. People in the thread are telling me I need a SS card. My recruiter specifically told me all I needed was my birth certificate. I was an Accounting major, so I'm all about attention to detail..its how I'm wired.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
PackRat's Comment
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Smart C, you are incredibly hung up on this verification thing. Is there anything you don't want them to see? If it's something they asked for, you better tell them. You need to go on the assumption that they will find it.

It's already been perfectly explained to you, yet you're still not getting it.

As long as you told the complete truth on your application you should have nothing to fear now that you've been invited to orientation. 3yr, 10yr, whatever. It doesn't matter, as long as you told the truth on your application.

The verification process, whether perfunctory or in-depth, is simply verifying the answers you gave on the application. If you omitted something from the time period they asked for and they find it, you're done.

If the application asked you for a 3-year history, you better have given a complete history for those 3 years. The same applies if they asked for a 10 year history. They are going to verify that you told the truth. As Jrod mentioned, they may not necessarily care about the specifics, only that you're telling the truth about it. Nobody expects perfection, they expect honesty.

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It absolutely has not been perfectly explained. Recruiting had a hard time getting a hold of someone for verification multiple times for orientation. They wanted more info during that simple process .Now I'm being told that an even more in depth verification has to be done when I get there. ** I don't want to be in an impossible situation.** If they need someone else to call for instance...I don't want to have to depend on people to pick up phones. It's different when I'm still here at home. I can drive to whoever it is and tell them to pick up the darn phone. I can go and look for additional paperwork. I can have paperwork sent to me and just postpone orientation.

And yes, I was completely honest. No, I have nothing to hide. I provided 3 years of history, everything included. Which again was a pain to get verified. So if for some reason if that were to switch to say 10 or even 5 years work history once I'm there, I'm likely screwed. People in the thread are telling me I need a SS card. My recruiter specifically told me all I needed was my birth certificate. I was an Accounting major, so I'm all about attention to detail..its how I'm wired.

Then why not show up with ten years verifiable information to be on the safe side? DUH. We’ll be standing by to answer the same questions again.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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