Are Logbook Notations Required When Changing Duty Status?

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Parrothead66's Comment
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Yes ours are the same with the drop down menus. Some pre-loaded remarks but also ability to type in something. And as G-Town said it automatically logs location on change of duty status but in the FMCSA book I’ve not found anything that says activity remarks are required. I usually add mine anyway but just when I was told it’s a DOT violation I questioned that. I haven’t found anything in writing that supports that statement.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Parrothead66's Comment
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I also add any trailer I hook up to even if it’s just a trailer move from the yard to the Lowe’s DC. Which is all of 2.5 miles.

Parrothead66's Comment
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Susan any day we forget or skip approving or legs (logs) we don’t get our per diem credit for that day.

Per Diem:

Getting paid per diem means getting a portion of your salary paid to you without taxes taken out. It's technically classified as a meal and expense reimbursement.

Truck drivers and others who travel for a living get large tax deductions for meal expenses. The Government set up per diem pay as a way to reimburse some of the taxes you pay with each paycheck instead of making you wait until tax filing season.

Getting per diem pay means a driver will get a larger paycheck each week but a smaller tax return at tax time.

We have a ton of information on our wiki page on per diem pay

Susan D. 's Comment
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Yeah I've harped and harped about log approval to my current trainee to no avail. Gonna have to tattoo it on her forehead I guess lol. Our logs compliance/safety gets REALLY upset with drivers about daily log approval and on duty time with no remarks

G-Town's Comment
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They will not dispatch us if logs are not approved daily.

It’s a bit different for us because 90% of the time we return to the DC MT or laden with a vendor back haul. Next shift logs better be approved...or for chronic offenders they’ll pull the pre-plan and put them back in the planning queue.

Parrothead66's Comment
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😲😲 No per diem seems minor now

They will not dispatch us if logs are not approved daily.

It’s a bit different for us because 90% of the time we return to the DC MT or laden with a vendor back haul. Next shift logs better be approved...or for chronic offenders they’ll pull the pre-plan and put them back in the planning queue.

Per Diem:

Getting paid per diem means getting a portion of your salary paid to you without taxes taken out. It's technically classified as a meal and expense reimbursement.

Truck drivers and others who travel for a living get large tax deductions for meal expenses. The Government set up per diem pay as a way to reimburse some of the taxes you pay with each paycheck instead of making you wait until tax filing season.

Getting per diem pay means a driver will get a larger paycheck each week but a smaller tax return at tax time.

We have a ton of information on our wiki page on per diem pay

Jamie's Comment
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Schneider only ensures we log a pre-trip, post trip, load tab/history and DVIR and that's about it. Although I do add remarks for my 30 minute break, and 10 hour break but I haven't really logged anything else remark wise, normally just go on duty.

PJ's Comment
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I’m like OS, I put notes on everything. Once you develop the habit it is second nature. The only notes legally required are on duty remarks, and I’m like G, haven’t found the section number yet. DOT in Va and Ga have been cracking down on this area lately. My safety folks sent out a message a couple weeks ago about it. We use peoplenet and it has drop downs for about everything. I have a wireless keyboard I use because the popup screen keyboard is a pain to use. I always figure more is better. I know several inspectors, through my prior life, lol and they all agree in a practice I was taught as a rookie cop. Take a good look in the beginning and get a good feel, if things look good move on. In otherwords with logs, look at the first couple days if they are spotless then the rest more than likely will be also. They won’t waste time combing through all of them. BUT if they find something they will dig through all of them. Now you always may get that ONE special inspector that takes their job over seriously. Always be ready for that one, and you will never have an issue.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Robert D. (Raptor)'s Comment
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Well my last mentor never had me do any of that. If trailer drop then I would enter it.or if trailer pick up then enter it. But never in my 123 hours did we ever enter pre-trip, post trip, or any comments. When I asked about it he said not to worry about it. So these things you are saying is all new to me. I know with the old paper logs we had to enter all of that stuff. He said that the Qualcomm did most of that for you. Well more lies from him.

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.
G-Town's Comment
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Well my last mentor never had me do any of that. If trailer drop then I would enter it.or if trailer pick up then enter it. But never in my 123 hours did we ever enter pre-trip, post trip, or any comments. When I asked about it he said not to worry about it. So these things you are saying is all new to me. I know with the old paper logs we had to enter all of that stuff. He said that the Qualcomm did most of that for you. Well more lies from him.

I was taught from day-1 to include remarks for on-duty not driving activities. Record what you are doing. Not sure why your mentor believes the QC is capable of mind reading, absolutely not true. The QC will however change status from driving to on-duty, not driving once the truck ignition is switched off. The inverse is also true, it will automatically put you back on the drive line once moving again.

Goto the status screen, look at the remarks drop down, and you’ll see the prewritten options and a free form text line.

Did she instruct on the load tab? That also requires entry.

The only thing I questioned here is the current ELD DOT guidance on remarks/annotations. I cannot find anything on the FMCSA website.

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
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