Metal Coil Frustration.

Topic 24476 | Page 3

Page 3 of 4 Previous Page Next Page Go To Page:
Brett Aquila's Comment
member avatar

You guys are referencing two different manuals....the Federal Cargo Securement Manual and the New York State Coil Endorsement Manual, both of which are built directly into the High Road.

Here are the two different sections within the High Road:

Federal Cargo Securement Manual

New York State Coil Endorsement

So if there's a conflict in the definitions I would suspect it's coming from the different writers of the two different manuals.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
∆_Danielsahn_∆'s Comment
member avatar
Also I can’t survive in another state, I have delivered to a few of them and they just lack the abuse nyc happens to have. Keeps you on edge.

Hahaha

That is why I am moving back to Michigan. Only Michigan has that perfect level of abuse that I need in my life. smile.gif

Art A.'s Comment
member avatar

I don't have much time before I gotta roll so I'll be quick.

Question 3 on the chains:

double-quotes-start.png

3. 3/8 chain is rated with 5,400 lbs. the chain should have a rating of? ( the chart is on page 2.8 of the booklet )

A. G70 B. H C. HT

double-quotes-end.png

0201750001549294155.jpg

In the table you showed me it says “ high test “. In the booklet I have it says “ high “.

Thank you for the clarification on question 4.

0246393001549298875.jpg

Art A.'s Comment
member avatar

@ Brett Aquila

“ So if there's a conflict in the definitions I would suspect it's coming from the different writers of the two different manuals. “

Well you are right.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

I also just checked the towing manual and the chain rating is High Test instead of High. During the test they give you a print out of the chain tables from the Metal coil booklet so I guess you would always pick the wrong answer if you didn’t know better.

0901861001549299770.jpg

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Brett Aquila's Comment
member avatar

Art, I forgot to mention that yes, you have to be logged in for the system to track your scores.

Grumpy Old Man's Comment
member avatar

I don't have much time before I gotta roll so I'll be quick.

Question 3 on the chains:

double-quotes-start.png

3. 3/8 chain is rated with 5,400 lbs. the chain should have a rating of? ( the chart is on page 2.8 of the booklet )

A. G70 B. H C. HT

double-quotes-end.png

0201750001549294155.jpg

3/8 chain rated at 5400lbs is Grade 43 High Test (HT)

Question 4- regardless of the definition of direct or indirect, answers A and B can't possibly be correct because they must also include a side to side tie down going directly over the top of these coil to be in compliance. Look at the link above on coil securement that Chris M sent. It shows 3 options for securing a shotgun coil. Answer C is the only one that matches one of those options (option #3).

Absolutely correct, Grade 43 HT

The NY Chart

0130117001549313538.jpg

The NY Metal Coil Endorsement manual, if you don't have it.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Brett Aquila's Comment
member avatar
The NY Metal Coil Endorsement manual, if you don't have it.

It's already built into the High Road CDL Training Program. The High Road is the manual.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
∆_Danielsahn_∆'s Comment
member avatar

double-quotes-start.png

The NY Metal Coil Endorsement manual, if you don't have it.

double-quotes-end.png

It's already built into the High Road CDL Training Program. The High Road is the manual.

The problem is, that there are several questions no covered by the Highroads, or the manual.

I think NY did it on purpose, to nickel and dime the drivers. (partial sarcasm)

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Grumpy Old Man's Comment
member avatar

double-quotes-start.png

The NY Metal Coil Endorsement manual, if you don't have it.

double-quotes-end.png

It's already built into the High Road CDL Training Program. The High Road is the manual.

I hadn’t refreshed the page when I posted that. I didn’t see the other replies.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Turtle's Comment
member avatar
I think NY did it on purpose, to nickel and dime the drivers. (partial sarcasm)

No surprise there haha. NY can be brutal for sure.

But yeah seriously, the High Road CDL Training Program covers everything you need to pass the NY Coil exam. It's literally all I used for study, and I passed on my first try. It's been long enough now that I don't remember any specific questions though. In fact, I don't remember any auto-fail questions at all.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Page 3 of 4 Previous Page Next Page Go To Page:

New Reply:

New! Check out our help videos for a better understanding of our forum features

Bold
Italic
Underline
Quote
Photo
Link
Smiley
Links On TruckingTruth


example: TruckingTruth Homepage



example: https://www.truckingtruth.com
Submit
Cancel
Upload New Photo
Please enter a caption of one sentence or less:

Click on any of the buttons below to insert a link to that section of TruckingTruth:

Getting Started In Trucking High Road Training Program Company-Sponsored Training Programs Apply For Company-Sponsored Training Truck Driver's Career Guide Choosing A School Choosing A Company Truck Driving Schools Truck Driving Jobs Apply For Truck Driving Jobs DOT Physical Drug Testing Items To Pack Pre-Hire Letters CDL Practice Tests Trucking Company Reviews Brett's Book Leasing A Truck Pre-Trip Inspection Learn The Logbook Rules Sleep Apnea
Done
Done

0 characters so far - 5,500 maximum allowed.
Submit Preview

Preview:

Submit
Cancel

Join Us!

We have an awesome set of tools that will help you understand the trucking industry and prepare for a great start to your trucking career. Not only that, but everything we offer here at TruckingTruth is 100% free - no strings attached! Sign up now and get instant access to our member's section:
High Road Training Program Logo
  • The High Road Training Program
  • The High Road Article Series
  • The Friendliest Trucker's Forum Ever!
  • Email Updates When New Articles Are Posted

Apply For Paid CDL Training Through TruckingTruth

Did you know you can fill out one quick form here on TruckingTruth and apply to several companies at once for paid CDL training? Seriously! The application only takes one minute. You will speak with recruiters today. There is no obligation whatsoever. Learn more and apply here:

Apply For Paid CDL Training

About Us

TruckingTruth was founded by Brett Aquila (that's me!), a 15 year truck driving veteran, in January 2007. After 15 years on the road I wanted to help people understand the trucking industry and everything that came with the career and lifestyle of an over the road trucker. We'll help you make the right choices and prepare for a great start to your trucking career.

Read More

Becoming A Truck Driver

Becoming A Truck Driver is a dream we've all pondered at some point in our lives. We've all wondered if the adventure and challenges of life on the open road would suit us better than the ordinary day to day lives we've always known. At TruckingTruth we'll help you decide if trucking is right for you and help you get your career off to a great start.

Learn More