Fired From Swift

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Andy D.'s Comment
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Dumb question.....

Have you not called Swift and talked to them about this instead of coming on here first? Seems to me if you had documentation on you proving that you took these tests while they say you did not would justify a call or two.

just my 2 cents

Chris M's Comment
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Did you actually go to the instructor after the drug test and ask if it was ok to leave for the dentist? Sounds to me like you left before they were finished. Just because you thought they were done doesn't mean that they were.

Marc Lee's Comment
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Mark A. - welcome to Trucking Truth!

I will preface my comments by saying confirm anything I say with the "pros" here - I am a newbie / wannabe myself.

Lcenses are great!

I got insurance licenses (all 4 available at the time) decades ago. I then sold insurance for several years.

I got a real estate Broker's license as well! I actually started in a little-known (WI) apprenticeship program working under my Father. Did that for a couple of years. After automating his business I realized I had an interest and aptitude for computers and worked in IT for about 30 years.

Been doing mostly handy man work last 10 or so years.

When I decided I wanted "this" I studied hard, attended class (for almost 400 hours - including driving and testing) and now hold a CDL-A with HazMat , Tankers and Doubles and Triples endorsements.

IMHO... licenses are pretty much ONLY as good as what you do with them! (I have long since let my insurance and real estate licenses fall away)...

As for the drug testing...

My understanding is a refusal to test is one of worst things you can have on your record! From the time one enrolls in a school going forward, a refusal is considered a failure and I believe it requires completion of an approved treatment program and a one-year hiatus from trucking. It is even worse "now" (and going forward) due to the pending implementation of the new database "clearinghouse" program.

IF YOU TRULY TOOK AND PASSED A DOT DRUG TEST AND WERE FIRED FOR NOT DOING SO - THIS IS HUGE! It has serious implications for anything you might want to do in trucking and, I believe other fields (such as even limousine driving).

If a company were to incorrectly report a refusal to test I would think it would be a serious and risky proposition for them. The potential legal liability is substantial.

To think that the largest carrier in North America when presented with the facts would not take immediate steps to rectify the situation is simply mind blowing. Either you have not yet gotten to the "right" person or department or (as others have suggested) we are not getting the whole story.

Either way... I believe you need to fix the immediate problem and see where you can go from there. Once the "false reporting" is fixed you should be able to address the firing/rehiring with Swift or another carrier. With a "refusal to test" on your record I suspect you are going nowhere fast (or even at slow governed speeds).

And I would keep the unrelated licensing and possible side-gigs to myself when talking to recruiters!

But that's just me and my $.02!

Your mileage may vary (and probably does!)

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CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Brett Aquila's Comment
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I agree with Old School that I think this guy had the idea he would just stroll on into trucking and collect another license, not realizing what a tremendous commitment it takes to survive and then thrive in this industry.

People famously underestimate how difficult and demanding this job is. Most people think, "Hey, it's only trucking. Anyone can do that." They believe it's simply a matter of learning to shift more gears and drive a bigger vehicle. The numbers really demonstrate this. When you look at the Paid CDL Training Programs you'll find that a full 50% of the people who start these programs drop out before they even manage to get their CDL. Another 50% of those remaining never make it through training and go solo.

Trucking is not an ordinary job, and no one just strolls in casually and manages to figure it out. Those who come into it with a low level of commitment planning to dip their toe in the water to see how it feels normally wind up running for their lives in short order.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
PackRat's Comment
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As you have posted many times previously, Brett, there’s no faking it out here.

MrTechit's Comment
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Ain't this the truth. I'm in week 4 with a mentor right now. And I have to say. Even with all the reading and "prep" I did, i am exhausted. Its not an easy life and its not one if those just jump in and go things. That said, loving every minute of it!

As you have posted many times previously, Brett, there’s no faking it out here.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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Did you pay for your CDL or go to Swift’s company school?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
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