Came Up 5 Minutes Short

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Bobcat_Bob's Comment
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I'm currently sitting about 20 minutes from my terminal with 15 minutes left of drive time waiting for someone to come get me. Unfortunately most of the rest of the way is a 1 lane road through town so I will not really have a place to stop out of the way.

Today is my first day on this new run which is a meet when we have extra Indy freight which makes this a 612 mile run and with the construction on I 65 and accidents I will come up about 5 minutes short of making it home.

But at least it is a nice day.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

PJ's Comment
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Just go to pc and note you stopped at the closest safe haven.

Bobcat_Bob's Comment
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Just go to pc and note you stopped at the closest safe haven.

I would love to, but they make us stop wherever we are and either send another driver, a tow truck or put us in a hotel.

PJ's Comment
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Oh wow

Pete E Pothole's Comment
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Cant PC to company property, for whatever reason that doesnt count as a safe haven. That's what I was told by our log dept anyway.

Auggie69's Comment
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I'm currently sitting about 20 minutes from my terminal with 15 minutes left of drive time waiting for someone to come get me. Unfortunately most of the rest of the way is a 1 lane road through town so I will not really have a place to stop out of the way.

Today is my first day on this new run which is a meet when we have extra Indy freight which makes this a 612 mile run and with the construction on I 65 and accidents I will come up about 5 minutes short of making it home.

But at least it is a nice day.

They should be able to give you a drive extension

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

PJ's Comment
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Pete that is your company’s take on it. Safe haven parking is just that. A safe and legal parking place.

Deleted Account's Comment
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They should be able to give you a drive extension

Whys that? In order to get the extra 2 hours of drive time something UNEXPECTED must have been the cause. Without the construction he'd probably make it back. It's possible to say the accidents is what caused it but DOT could make the arguement road construction did, which would have been known prior to departing therefore making you ineligible for that extra 2 hours.

I'm all for using the HOS rules to my benefit, but you gotta do it in a way that leaves no questions. I think Bobcat did the right thing in this situation. Hopefully you don't need to have someone "rescue" you as a regular occurrence.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Auggie69's Comment
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They should be able to give you a drive extension

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Whys that? In order to get the extra 2 hours of drive time something UNEXPECTED must have been the cause. Without the construction he'd probably make it back. It's possible to say the accidents is what caused it but DOT could make the arguement road construction did, which would have been known prior to departing therefore making you ineligible for that extra 2 hours.

I'm all for using the HOS rules to my benefit, but you gotta do it in a way that leaves no questions. I think Bobcat did the right thing in this situation. Hopefully you don't need to have someone "rescue" you as a regular occurrence.

He mentioned "construction" and "accidents".

I suggest you enlighten your Dispatch on drive hour extensions. You can argue all you want on what caused the delay but if dispatch has authorized the driver to continue due to an unforeseen circumstance, the driver, at least in the company's eyes, is covered. If in the same circumstances you wish to tell your dispatch to **** off and you won't continue, that is your prerogative as the captain of your ship.

https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/title49/section/395.1

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Brett Aquila's Comment
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If in the same circumstances you wish to tell your dispatch to **** off and you won't continue, that is your prerogative as the captain of your ship.

Well that sounds like an intelligent way to handle relationships within your company. Great advice. Maybe he should just go in there and punch someone in the face if he doesn't get his way?

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