Backing Help Needed: Turning Front Vs. Back Of Trailer

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Errol V.'s Comment
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... these are live loads. Real trailers... real potential for damage DAC reporting... the whole thing. This is for real!

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Don't let the "it's real!! get to you. True, you are dealing with variable width backing lanes and you don't want to take the fender off the Peterbilt on the right you can't see.

But over all, there's little difference.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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On that death grip....You'll also end up with a stiff neck and shoulders.

And fingers.

One thing that helped me when learning the parallel park in school was to stand off to the left rear and watch someone else do it. It was easier for me to see the effect the steering had on the trailer that way.

Marc Lee's Comment
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Don't let the "it's real!! get to you. True, you are dealing with variable width backing lanes and you don't want to take the fender off the Peterbilt on the right you can't see.

But over all, there's little difference.

Thanks Errol. Yes... sort of!

In CDL school or main instructor referred to the cones as his relatives or his family. Sometimes we took out a cousin. Sometimes a whole family! Here you may get to take home a little cone named Timmy. You get to continue to take care of him... take him to dinner... put him to bed... whatever. One student forgot him on the yard and walked back from his hotel to get him. This is NOT that!

This was clearly demonstrated today by a 16-year vetran of his current company who turned the front corner of his tractor into a stone block (one of a number lining the edge of a yard) when backing without ever looking to that side as my trainer and I watched and/or listened (he saw it, I didn't)...

A large angry Pete owner would have been WAY worse!

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CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
PackRat's Comment
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Just take your time, do as many GOALs and Pull Ups as needed, learn from your mistakes, don't get frustrated or in too big a hurry.

Marc Lee's Comment
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Just take your time, do as many GOALs and Pull Ups as needed, learn from your mistakes, don't get frustrated or in too big a hurry.

Thanks PackRat!

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Really more concerned about TRAINER'S frustration!

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Michael W.'s Comment
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Slide the tandems , all the way to the rear... Then watch those tires, not the trailer. The tires are your guide, steer the tires too where you want to go... The TIRES, are what you align on, if they are forward, line the tires up to the target. Just remember, you have that trailer back there. It can hit things on the swing.

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Tim F.'s Comment
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Just take your time, do as many GOALs and Pull Ups as needed, learn from your mistakes, don't get frustrated or in too big a hurry.

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Thanks PackRat!

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Really more concerned about TRAINER'S frustration!

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Marc...your only concern is to back that trailer into the hole. Don’t be too concerned about the trainers frustration. In fact, ignore it.

You will learn how the back of the trailer moves in relation to your adjustments.

Good luck.

Marc Lee's Comment
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Marc...your only concern is to back that trailer into the hole. Don’t be too concerned about the trainers frustration. In fact, ignore it.

You will learn how the back of the trailer moves in relation to your adjustments.

Good luck.

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Old School's Comment
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Really more concerned about TRAINER'S frustration!

Big mistake Marc. You are not there to keep the peace. You are not there to make your trainer comfortable. He wanted to be a trainer. Nobody forced him into that position. He chose it.

You're there as a trainee. New guys can be both scary and frustrating. Every trainer knows that. Every trainer expects that. You are there to learn some very basic low level entry skills. Get it done. I could have cared less how my trainer ranted and/or screamed, and boy did he!

Focus Marc, but focus on your progress. You've got to get this done. Don't allow an impatient trainer to exercise tyranny over you. Pacifying his fickle moodiness doesn't help you one bit. One of the critical attributes of a successful driver is that he makes things happen in spite of the things resisting his progress. That is your challenge, and you've got to face it and overcome it.

Focus... Focus... Focus...

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
PackRat's Comment
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Ask Old School about the awesome human being he lucked into for his trainer.

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