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Marc Lee's Comment
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Marc..?.. can you elaborate? How can you pull a 16 exempt AND an 100 mile radius deal.... thought it was either or?!?? (Where's Rick S., btw) LoL. Maybe Bobcat Bob knows? Brett? Anyone?! It's really unclear, and the husband comes to ME with his ifs/ands/ors..... and I've got the same green book and Google we all do. This has always been vague; and he's been out of school since '03, and not quite by the books prior. Always looking to learn, ya know?

Hubby pulls a 16 here and there doing intrastate/daycab, but the start and stop point have to be the same, IIRC. For instance, if he pulls a 16, he has to return to the yard, about 35 minutes South of our home. If he brings the rig home (which he does often thank gawsh...) and runs over the 14, they allow him PC. Always empty, no backhauls...not many rejects in corrugated. Never advancing a load, just sleeping here, to run again and load next day after the 10.

Just wondering. Before he got his 'new' Qualcomm he could 'kinda' do the 100 air mile radius deal... but.... if you go from Mt. Vernon, Ohio, to Toledo, to Dayton, and home..... it doesn't add up.

I'm just trying to learn a bit myself here, as well..

Glad things are going well for ya, man~!

Anne

Anne, we did return to yard. Actually had to park amongst cars as place was really full! Paraphrasing regs. as best I know them. Trainer's Fleet Leader offered up a hotel if needed! Can't wait for a sleeper cab!

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.

Intrastate:

The act of purchasers and sellers transacting business while keeping all transactions in a single state, without crossing state lines to do so.

Tim F.'s Comment
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Marc..?.. can you elaborate? How can you pull a 16 exempt AND an 100 mile radius deal.... thought it was either or?!?? (Where's Rick S., btw) LoL. Maybe Bobcat Bob knows? Brett? Anyone?! It's really unclear, and the husband comes to ME with his ifs/ands/ors..... and I've got the same green book and Google we all do. This has always been vague; and he's been out of school since '03, and not quite by the books prior. Always looking to learn, ya know?

Hubby pulls a 16 here and there doing intrastate/daycab, but the start and stop point have to be the same, IIRC. For instance, if he pulls a 16, he has to return to the yard, about 35 minutes South of our home. If he brings the rig home (which he does often thank gawsh...) and runs over the 14, they allow him PC. Always empty, no backhauls...not many rejects in corrugated. Never advancing a load, just sleeping here, to run again and load next day after the 10.

Just wondering. Before he got his 'new' Qualcomm he could 'kinda' do the 100 air mile radius deal... but.... if you go from Mt. Vernon, Ohio, to Toledo, to Dayton, and home..... it doesn't add up.

I'm just trying to learn a bit myself here, as well..

Glad things are going well for ya, man~!

Anne

Anne,

The 16 hour exemption is designed for local drivers “daycabs”. One of the provisions of the exemption is that you NOT travel more than 100 miles from your Starting point and as you stated...must return To the same location you started from.

It’s really designed to save drivers from the unexpected storm delays, accidents and such. but is NOT designed to allow drivers the opportunity to pick up more loads etc. I believe once you declare a”big day” your next stop should be back at the yard.

I’m sure Rick S will chime in with more information....but that’s some basics of the law.

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.

Intrastate:

The act of purchasers and sellers transacting business while keeping all transactions in a single state, without crossing state lines to do so.

Rob T.'s Comment
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The 16 hour exemption is designed for local drivers “daycabs”. One of the provisions of the exemption is that you NOT travel more than 100 miles from your Starting point and as you stated...must return To the same location you started from.

There is no 100 mile limit on it, I've used the 16 rule running des moines to madison wi, about 300 miles each way. Using the 16 you're required to start and stop your day for 5 consecutive work days at the same location and you still can not drive over 11 hours. The 16 hour rule can also only be used once every 7(or 8) days unless you get a 34 reset. The 100 air miles you dont even need to use logs as far as I know because your time is tracked by a time clock. You may not stray out of a 100 air mile radius unless you're using logs and you must be clocked out within 12 hours of starting your day.

Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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It is also possible to do 16 hours with no exemption as long as the last two don’t require driving. Sitting at a dock, truck repairs, etc. The 14 hour rule is you can’t DRIVE any more, but you can be on duty, not driving.

Marc Lee's Comment
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Training week 3... with "Home Daily" trainer: Week 2 Day 2...

Drove 383 miles. A little over 1/2 with a trailer, Bobtailed home.

Driving generally going well. "Kissed" a couple of curbs (not hits). Still occasionally challenged in roundabouts (mostly changing a lane without signalling). Pretty tight quarters today (downtown, reverse direction at a (U-turn but not a U-turn)).

Backing getting better almost every time. Still a bit rough with sliding tandems...

Hoping more reps. will help with it all. Definitely better today with lane control on windy roads and more "assertive" (vs. too cautious... NOT to be confused with aggressive!)

FYI... CNG truck requires fuel pretty much daily (or even 2x daily), fuels slowly and is not available in a lot of places. Fueling time increases as temperatures drop. It definitely cuts into drive time!

Tomorrow is another day and it's bedtime.

Night All!

Bobtail:

"Bobtailing" means you are driving a tractor without a trailer attached.

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Marc Lee's Comment
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Training week 3... with "Home Daily" trainer: Week 2 Day 2...

Drove 383 miles. A little over 1/2 with a trailer, Bobtailed home.

Driving generally going well. "Kissed" a couple of curbs (not hits). Still occasionally challenged in roundabouts (mostly changing a lane without signalling). Pretty tight quarters today (downtown, reverse direction at a (U-turn but not a U-turn)).

Backing getting better almost every time. Still a bit rough with sliding tandems...

Hoping more reps. will help with it all. Definitely better today with lane control on windy roads and more "assertive" (vs. too cautious... NOT to be confused with aggressive!)

FYI... CNG truck requires fuel pretty much daily (or even 2x daily), fuels slowly and is not available in a lot of places. Fueling time increases as temperatures drop. It definitely cuts into drive time!

Tomorrow is another day and it's bedtime.

Night All!

Turn-around (not U-turn) was at a customer.

Bobtail:

"Bobtailing" means you are driving a tractor without a trailer attached.

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

PJ's Comment
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Sounds like you are progressing well Marc. I am very happy to hear this. Keep the focus on each task as they come, and things will get better and easier with more practice. dancing-dog.gif

Bobcat_Bob's Comment
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Wisconsin loves its roundabouts if the ones you go through are like the ones I did in Oshkosh its impossible to make it around it without encroaching on the other lanes.

You are progressing from the sound of things, the more you do it the better you will get.

Marc Lee's Comment
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Wisconsin loves its roundabouts if the ones you go through are like the ones I did in Oshkosh its impossible to make it around it without encroaching on the other lanes.

You are progressing from the sound of things, the more you do it the better you will get.

Thanks Bobcat!

Yeah... they got pretty carried away with them around OSH (and Green Bay). Pioneer Road (Richfield, WI) of 45 is really special! Goes from 55 to 15 and back up about 5 times in like 3/4 mi. for like 5 of them.

REALLY SPECIAL!

Thanks!

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Marc Lee's Comment
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Sounds like you are progressing well Marc. I am very happy to hear this. Keep the focus on each task as they come, and things will get better and easier with more practice. dancing-dog.gif

Thanks PJ. Getting some snow experience today!

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