Failed Drug Test

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Jeremy B.'s Comment
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I was enrolled in a CDL school and they they do hair testing. I knew this beforehand, and didn't think it would be an issue. I don't do drugs. Even if I did, Im not stupid and wouldnt apply and go to training knowing I was going to fail a hair test - since it detects drug use months out. Surprise surprise, I failed it.

Now that I have failed it, what I want to know is does that go in my record somewhere as I'm only a cdl permit holder? Or should I be able to reapply with another company later? Either way I'm about to go test myself before I even try again. I don't trust these results unless somebody has been drugging me in my sleep.

Thanks

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

PackRat's Comment
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Oh man! I had wished so much we would make it through this final month of 2019 without a failed drug test story!

Why did it supposedly flag you for a false positive, Jeremy B.?

Rob T.'s Comment
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It will still go down as a failed drug test. Are you able to pay for them to retest the sample? If you really are clean that would be the best bet. What substance did the test say you've used?

Don's Comment
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Did you get any information of what you tested positive for? Getting retested may help give you peace of mind, but I am not sure how this will benefit you in any way.

Jeremy B.'s Comment
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Didn't give me the option to retest it, whether I paid for it or not. But yeah was told I tested positive for meth. Was a hair test, and supposedly that stays in your system for 2 months - told them what medications I was taking: Phentermine, Lisinopril, Pravastatin and Metoprolol - said the phentermine could give a false positive for amphetamine, but the rest shouldnt do anything.

Don't really know, I'd pay to retest if they gave me the option, though. I'll call and ask. But I was going to do my own hair test to see if i tested positive for sure - if there was a chance I could still apply elsewhere for school.

ChrisEMT's Comment
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I know with UA's they split the sample into 2 tubes. 1 is for the test, and if it comes back positive for something, they send the other tube to another (unaffiliated) lab to be tested. not sure if they do that for hair follicle testing, but I would call and ask if they did an indipendent confirmation test for verify the results, or if you can go into their lab for another test... I figure that it wouldn't hurt to ask.... And I may be wrong, and if II am, please feel free to correct me... I believe that once you have your CDL permit, and you do a drug test through your school or employer (or prospective employer) the results go into the DOT database. Again, I may be wrong, but may be worth getting retested to show that the test may have shown a false positive....

Chris

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Errol V.'s Comment
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The lab and the company know the seriousness of the test and the career ending damage of a positive test. They should be open to work with you to clear this up.

You'll need documentation for your prescriptions, and possibly a letter from the prescribing doctor.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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It's not a failed drug test if you have valid prescriptions and there's a correlation between one of your prescriptions and the test result. However, if you test positive for something and you do not have a valid prescription for it then it's a failed test.

It shouldn't be difficult to get this cleared up if you simply failed the test because of one of your prescriptions.

Don's Comment
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Sorry Jeremy , I did not mean to imply that a company would give you the option to retest. I was stating that you had mentioned your were going to test yourself, thus the use of the word "retest." Adipex can trigger a false positive for amphetamine. You mentioned You stayed that "you told them about it", but do you have a prescription by a MD? I do not believe a prescription is required for buying it online, so if you did so (without a prescription), then that may very well be an issue.

Didn't give me the option to retest it, whether I paid for it or not. But yeah was told I tested positive for meth. Was a hair test, and supposedly that stays in your system for 2 months - told them what medications I was taking: Phentermine, Lisinopril, Pravastatin and Metoprolol - said the phentermine could give a false positive for amphetamine, but the rest shouldnt do anything.

Don't really know, I'd pay to retest if they gave me the option, though. I'll call and ask. But I was going to do my own hair test to see if i tested positive for sure - if there was a chance I could still apply elsewhere for school.

Jeremy B.'s Comment
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Don, it's fine.

The lab told me all the medication that I take wouldn't cause me to test positive. The lab is willing to send sample to another lab for testing, and I'm willing to pay for it, because unless somebody has been shoving it up my backside while I sleep, there's no way it should be positive. I don't even know what the stuff looks like.

The company has to give them permission to send it to another lab, even if I will pay for it, and unfortunately they won't okay it. So, that's where I'm at now, with no way to contest the result.

I don't know what else to do at this point. Find an attorney, or if I need to do SAP and hope for the best or just move on to another industry or what.

As it stands now, just looks like I will have a failed drug test on my record no matter what, and that is that.

Sorry Jeremy , I did not mean to imply that a company would give you the option to retest. I was stating that you had mentioned your were going to test yourself, thus the use of the word "retest." Adipex can trigger a false positive for amphetamine. You mentioned You stayed that "you told them about it", but do you have a prescription by a MD? I do not believe a prescription is required for buying it online, so if you did so (without a prescription), then that may very well be an issue.

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Didn't give me the option to retest it, whether I paid for it or not. But yeah was told I tested positive for meth. Was a hair test, and supposedly that stays in your system for 2 months - told them what medications I was taking: Phentermine, Lisinopril, Pravastatin and Metoprolol - said the phentermine could give a false positive for amphetamine, but the rest shouldnt do anything.

Don't really know, I'd pay to retest if they gave me the option, though. I'll call and ask. But I was going to do my own hair test to see if i tested positive for sure - if there was a chance I could still apply elsewhere for school.

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SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

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